a cheap 5.56 rifle?

tazer101 · April 28th, 2009, 01:51 PM

Im intersted in a rifle chambered for 5.56 or .223 the only ones that i know of are pretty costy so i want to know if any one has any ideas for a cheap 5.56 rifle. Ive only got 1 requirement no bolt action it has to be semi auto. any thing helps thanks

anil · April 28th, 2009, 02:02 PM

what is your definition of cheap?
Kel Tec makes < $700 rifles.

never fired one, so can't comment on quality, etc.
Also, I'm not sure if they are 223 or 556. i'd assume 5.56 (does anyone make just .223 anymore?)

If I remember right, 5.56 rounds are capable of putting out higher pressure than .223 rounds (same sizes, different pressure specs).

tazer101 · April 28th, 2009, 02:14 PM

You just made me realize i need to change the heading to 5.56 and .223. Thanks

My definition of cheap is around $300-$500

Llyrin · April 28th, 2009, 02:23 PM

You might have to go to a bolt-action for that price, but who wants a .223 bolt? So, try gunbroker, or look for someone selling a used rifle. I got the Ruger Mini-14 Tactical I have (new) for $695, which is $200 under MSRP, and it's one of the lowest priced .223s. The Ranch model is a little lower too, so maybe about $650. If you are willing to pay that price or something close to it, contact Mike @ Mid-County Gunshop on the Eastern Shore. He might make you a deal if he still has them in stock. Info is in the Dealer Connection forum.

blindnoodle · April 28th, 2009, 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anil

(does anyone make just .223 anymore?)

my last build was with a .223 barrel.

danielw · April 28th, 2009, 03:53 PM

200 300 you ain't gonna get much

Diesel Kinevel · April 28th, 2009, 03:58 PM

maybe try and find a used mini14. thats about it.

Remember Credit is your friend

Inigoes · April 28th, 2009, 04:20 PM

If you're open to the suggestion of a single shot, you can get below $300 with an H&R

H&R's warranty work is performed by Remington.

Redneck · April 28th, 2009, 04:52 PM

you might be able to afford an upper, or a lower with lpk and stock, but not a whole rifle for that price.

Numidian · April 28th, 2009, 04:59 PM

Saiga .223... You can still find them for around $400-450 if you shop

303_enfield · April 28th, 2009, 05:34 PM

mini 14 one for sale in the classifieds

rainman73guns · April 28th, 2009, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Numidian

Saiga .223... You can still find them for around $400-450 if you shop

+1 on the Saiga 223 . I bought mine 3 weeks ago, although used but still looked good for 330. I just changed the stock to a Tapco tactical and order a 20 round mag

Srbenda · April 28th, 2009, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by rainman73guns

+1 on the Saiga 223 . I bought mine 3 weeks ago, although used but still looked good for 330. I just changed the stock to a Tapco tactical and order a 20 round mag

+2 on the Saiga...

Ignore the sneer's of the people carrying the AR's, but you can sling a whole bunch of Wolf ammo down range without cleaning it after every 20 rounds.

Scud · April 28th, 2009, 07:53 PM

The mags on the Siaga and Mini-14 will be the kicker theough. Remington makes a pump action that will take STANAG mags for the AR 15.

simplegreen · April 28th, 2009, 07:57 PM

if you're going low on the gun i can't imagine what you're willing to pay for ammo. remember. the gun is the cheap part.

GunnyHwy · April 28th, 2009, 08:01 PM

Mini-14 is probably the way to go. 4-6 hundred for an older standard model.

fivepointstar · April 28th, 2009, 08:12 PM

Saiga is your best bet, I've built a KISS AR15 for just @ $550

simplegreen · April 28th, 2009, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by fivepointstar

Saiga is your best bet, I've built a KISS AR15 for just @ $550

think you can spec out a AR in 9mm for under 600 bucks? lol been wanting one.

Jimbob2.0 · April 28th, 2009, 09:10 PM

They are right that budget isnt going to get you much. Might get you into a Kel-tec Sub 16 but probably not in this climate.

Have you considered the Remington 7615? It is a pump action but very compact and fast handling. Frankly I am as comfortable with it as I am with my AR for firepower in most situations, plus it takes AR mags.

If you watch gunbroker Grices Gunshop in PA posts them frequently for just under $500. Great all around gun, probably will get another one myself.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=127932161

tazer101 · April 30th, 2009, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rainman73guns

+1 on the Saiga 223 . I bought mine 3 weeks ago, although used but still looked good for 330. I just changed the stock to a Tapco tactical and order a 20 round mag

That .223 saiga looks way more fun than a mini14! I might try to find myself one of those. How much should i expect to pay used and new?

April 28th, 2009, 01:51 PM	#1
tazer101 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 46	a cheap 5.56 or .223 rifle? Im intersted in a rifle chambered for 5.56 or .223 the only ones that i know of are pretty costy so i want to know if any one has any ideas for a cheap 5.56 rifle. Ive only got 1 requirement no bolt action it has to be semi auto. any thing helps thanks Last edited by tazer101; April 28th, 2009 at 02:18 PM.

April 28th, 2009, 02:23 PM	#4
Llyrin Yankee-Rebel Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Charles Co Posts: 2,468	You might have to go to a bolt-action for that price, but who wants a .223 bolt? So, try gunbroker, or look for someone selling a used rifle. I got the Ruger Mini-14 Tactical I have (new) for $695, which is $200 under MSRP, and it's one of the lowest priced .223s. The Ranch model is a little lower too, so maybe about $650. If you are willing to pay that price or something close to it, contact Mike @ Mid-County Gunshop on the Eastern Shore. He might make you a deal if he still has them in stock. Info is in the Dealer Connection forum. __________________ Llyrin ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ NRA Endowment Member Collector of Curios & Relics Member: Maryland Shall Issue Member: Tea Party Patriots Member: Heritage Foundation Maryland Designated Collector Think about it: I'm left-handed, so I'm in my right mind. The rest of you are governed by the left. God only gave the Irish whiskey to prevent us from taking over the world.

April 28th, 2009, 03:58 PM	#7
Diesel Kinevel Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Frederick, MD Posts: 2,658	maybe try and find a used mini14. thats about it. Remember Credit is your friend __________________ Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called sons of God. Matthew 5:9 "Remember that guy who gave up? Neither does anyone else"

April 28th, 2009, 04:20 PM	#8
Inigoes Head'n for the hills Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: SoMD / West PA Posts: 23,919	If you're open to the suggestion of a single shot, you can get below $300 with an H&R H&R's warranty work is performed by Remington. __________________ 12/21/2012 - The Mayans lied Buy More Ammo Από τα νεκρά κρύα χέρια μου.

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April 28th, 2009, 02:02 PM	#2
anil Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Silver Spring, MD Posts: 262	what is your definition of cheap? Kel Tec makes < $700 rifles. never fired one, so can't comment on quality, etc. Also, I'm not sure if they are 223 or 556. i'd assume 5.56 (does anyone make just .223 anymore?) If I remember right, 5.56 rounds are capable of putting out higher pressure than .223 rounds (same sizes, different pressure specs).

April 28th, 2009, 02:14 PM	#3
tazer101 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 46	You just made me realize i need to change the heading to 5.56 and .223. Thanks My definition of cheap is around $300-$500

April 28th, 2009, 03:53 PM	#6
danielw Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: middle river md Posts: 210	200 300 you ain't gonna get much

April 28th, 2009, 04:59 PM	#10
Numidian Don't Hassle The Hoff! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Joppa, MD Posts: 4,936	Saiga .223... You can still find them for around $400-450 if you shop __________________ Brennan AR-15 for Sale! http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=328327223

April 28th, 2009, 05:34 PM	#11
303_enfield Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: DelMarVa Posts: 1,124	mini 14 one for sale in the classifieds

April 28th, 2009, 07:53 PM	#14
Scud Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Hagerstown Posts: 50	*The mags on the Siaga and Mini-14 will be the kicker theough. Remington makes a pump action that will take STANAG mags for the AR 15.*

April 28th, 2009, 07:57 PM	#15
simplegreen Professional Nerd Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: On the proverbial picket fence of insanity. AKA USSMD Posts: 2,630 Images: 1	if you're going low on the gun i can't imagine what you're willing to pay for ammo. remember. the gun is the cheap part. __________________ "They that can give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty or safety." - Benjamin Franklin

April 28th, 2009, 08:01 PM	#16
GunnyHwy Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Howard County Posts: 431	Mini-14 is probably the way to go. 4-6 hundred for an older standard model.

April 28th, 2009, 08:12 PM	#17
fivepointstar para bellum Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Harford COW-nty Posts: 27,322 Images: 7	Saiga is your best bet, I've built a KISS AR15 for just @ $550 __________________ . When you are thinking, your mind and my mind are different. When you cut off all thinking, your mind and my mind are the same. Your "before mind thinking" is your substance. My "before mind thinking" is my substance. Your substance , my substance , "everything substance" is the same substance. -Seung Sahn Sunim I'm a political prisoner in a Maryland Gulag Disclaimer: Expressed above are my personal opinions. If you wish to complain, kindly take a number.

April 28th, 2009, 09:10 PM	#19
Jimbob2.0 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 9,136 Images: 3	They are right that budget isnt going to get you much. Might get you into a Kel-tec Sub 16 but probably not in this climate. Have you considered the Remington 7615? It is a pump action but very compact and fast handling. Frankly I am as comfortable with it as I am with my AR for firepower in most situations, plus it takes AR mags. If you watch gunbroker Grices Gunshop in PA posts them frequently for just under $500. Great all around gun, probably will get another one myself. http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=127932161

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