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  • Braxtonian

    Active Member
    Dec 10, 2010
    136
    Greencastle, PA
    I have Constable Basic Training coming up in a few weeks, I'm expected to bring a duty belt, 2 pairs of handcuffs & case, and expandable baton.

    Anyone have suggestions where I can get these items without paying through the nose?
     
    Dec 6, 2011
    326
    MidwayUSA.com has a good ASP knock off baton on sale in 16, 21, and 26 inch lengths for less than 15 dollars. If they don't have the other stuff in stock, GALLS.com has house a house brand version of Bianchi Accumold that is good quality and cuffs. If you are going to pay full price on anything, make it the cuffs. Your life could depend on them one day.

    Good luck. Welcome to the party.
     

    K31

    "Part of that Ultra MAGA Crowd"
    MDS Supporter
    Jan 15, 2006
    35,678
    AA county
    Don't they have a suggestion of a local LEO shop that will give you a discount?
     

    Braxtonian

    Active Member
    Dec 10, 2010
    136
    Greencastle, PA
    MidwayUSA.com has a good ASP knock off baton on sale in 16, 21, and 26 inch lengths for less than 15 dollars. If they don't have the other stuff in stock, GALLS.com has house a house brand version of Bianchi Accumold that is good quality and cuffs. If you are going to pay full price on anything, make it the cuffs. Your life could depend on them one day.

    Good luck. Welcome to the party.

    Thanks for the info, I will check those sites out.

    Don't they have a suggestion of a local LEO shop that will give you a discount?

    If they have that info, they have yet to divulge it. Then again, I signed up like a month ago and only today learned I will need those materials a month from now when I'm 3 weeks into it. It's possible that they may give us some info like that in the introductory class I suppose. I wouldn't go so far as to say relevant information is secretive, but it can be a little difficult to come by. Goes with the territory I guess of being loosely governed/supervised.
     

    joppaj

    Sheepdog
    Staff member
    Moderator
    Apr 11, 2008
    46,724
    MD
    Some advice from a 12-year veteran...

    Duty gear is even more important than your personally owned firearms. Your life MAY actually depend upon the quality of the gear you select, so select with care.

    Skip the knock off ASP. Get an ASP or a Manadnock baton. My department issues ASP and I've been very happy with it. I'm a certified instructor for that and the PR-24. PR-24 is great for civil disturbance, bulky for anything else even in expandable form.

    Do they specify the material for your duty belt?
     

    miles71

    Ultimate Member
    Industry Partner
    Jul 19, 2009
    2,540
    Belcamp, Md.
    Be cool in Maryland had something like that. I have always thought there should be a place for a "reserve police" unit. To just some volunteers but real trained police that are just part time.

    But I digress...........
     

    PapiBarcelona

    Ultimate Member
    Jan 1, 2011
    7,362
    There probably are a lot of sworn retired officers who work Part Time. I even saw a Harford County Job posting for "Courthouse Security" that was catering towards that a few months ago.

    I would think Sworn Reserve would be too big of a liability for someone who isn't already a Police Officer to start with.. I would think someone fresh would need all the training, and at that point if someone made it that far, why would you do it unpaid?
     

    Name Taken

    Ultimate Member
    Feb 23, 2010
    11,891
    Central
    Dont buy a 15 dollar knock off.

    Get a real ASP, real Smith and Wesson handcuffs, and a good sturdy "duty belt".

    These items might seem expensive but if you plan on using them you want the best you can afford. Also with cheap belts, even with that minimal gear, your back WILL start to hurt if/when the cheap belt sags.

    Honestly I'd call whoever and get some idea of what they recommend or what they require. They might want nylon, leather, basketweave or who knows. Just call whoever you report to and ask them what you really need and if they know anywhere local.
     

    StantonCree

    Watch your beer
    Jan 23, 2011
    23,932
    Name taken is right. It's hard to buy when you don't know what style you need. With that being said here's some advice from someone who beats their gear to hell.

    DON'T BUY ASP HANDCUFFS!!! Lesbians are crafty and you'll end up with 7 stitches....long story.

    Don't buy handcuff keys that are not 100% metal, they twist where the polymer meets the metal and become useless.

    Leather is heavier but lasts longer and can be dyed!!

    Also already mentioned but emphasized ASP is the only way to go.

    Those 5.11 gear bags are crap and only good for a portable toilet. Get the smaller bags from condor.

    And lastly DO NOT ORDER FROM CHIEF SUPPY!!
     

    Braxtonian

    Active Member
    Dec 10, 2010
    136
    Greencastle, PA
    Dont buy a 15 dollar knock off.

    Get a real ASP, real Smith and Wesson handcuffs, and a good sturdy "duty belt".

    These items might seem expensive but if you plan on using them you want the best you can afford. Also with cheap belts, even with that minimal gear, your back WILL start to hurt if/when the cheap belt sags.

    Honestly I'd call whoever and get some idea of what they recommend or what they require. They might want nylon, leather, basketweave or who knows. Just call whoever you report to and ask them what you really need and if they know anywhere local.

    I was looking at Smith and Wesson model 100 cuffs, they look to be standard. Are they appropriate? As far as the duty belt and the baton, there are really a lot of details lacking, so I will probably wait until the first day of class and ask some questions, that would still give me 2 weeks to get what I need.
     

    LCPIWB

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    Nov 17, 2011
    2,006
    Underneath the blimp, Md.
    Be cool in Maryland had something like that. I have always thought there should be a place for a "reserve police" unit. To just some volunteers but real trained police that are just part time.

    But I digress...........

    Depends on your definition of "Reserve police", but many counties have Auxiliary Police forces that are made up of volunteers. To my understanding they are properly trained, not just put on a suit and badge. It is also my understanding they do not have arrest powers, but usually assist in things like crowd control.
    Baltimore county has an Auxiliary force. I looked into joining once, but they do not issue you a gun, nor get you a permit to carry, so I said forget it.
     

    FrankOceanXray

    Ultimate Member
    Oct 29, 2008
    12,037
    Each baton has its own training protocol. You need to supply the one they teach.

    Good metal handcuffs. S&W are common. Some do hinged but they require even more control to get on. Handcuffing isn't always so easy. Hinged only as a second or a third, back-up.

    Do leather. Nylon does not wear nicely, looks cheap. Leather can be a lifetime purchase.

    Get a nice inner belt to compliment your duty belt. Some use velcro. I recommend them. And get the plastic type keepers. Leather stretches , fades, cracks. These plastic black ones are as good as the first day.

    Save receipts. Write-off?
     

    Braxtonian

    Active Member
    Dec 10, 2010
    136
    Greencastle, PA
    Each baton has its own training protocol. You need to supply the one they teach.

    Good metal handcuffs. S&W are common. Some do hinged but they require even more control to get on. Handcuffing isn't always so easy. Hinged only as a second or a third, back-up.

    Do leather. Nylon does not wear nicely, looks cheap. Leather can be a lifetime purchase.

    Get a nice inner belt to compliment your duty belt. Some use velcro. I recommend them. And get the plastic type keepers. Leather stretches , fades, cracks. These plastic black ones are as good as the first day.

    Save receipts. Write-off?

    write off, yes, thanks for reminding me, I gotta fill out some statement of financial interests or some such crap for public officials...
     

    km04

    Get crackin you muggs!!!!
    Jul 12, 2010
    3,740
    Harford Co.
    Name taken is right. It's hard to buy when you don't know what style you need. With that being said here's some advice from someone who beats their gear to hell.

    DON'T BUY ASP HANDCUFFS!!! Lesbians are crafty and you'll end up with 7 stitches....long story.
    Don't buy handcuff keys that are not 100% metal, they twist where the polymer meets the metal and become useless.

    Leather is heavier but lasts longer and can be dyed!!

    Also already mentioned but emphasized ASP is the only way to go.

    Those 5.11 gear bags are crap and only good for a portable toilet. Get the smaller bags from condor.

    And lastly DO NOT ORDER FROM CHIEF SUPPY!!

    You cannot drop a line like that and not share....come, we won't tell...we PROMISE!:innocent0
     

    gruube

    Active Member
    Feb 19, 2008
    341
    Be cool in Maryland had something like that. I have always thought there should be a place for a "reserve police" unit. To just some volunteers but real trained police that are just part time.

    But I digress...........

    I thought the same thing. No such luck. Seems like civilians aren't trusted in these parts.
     

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