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  • dist1646

    Ultimate Member
    May 1, 2012
    8,818
    Eldersburg
    2.07 mile shot! That is a long, long way out there! Story is on
    accurateshooter.com. scroll down to the daily bulletin.
     

    JamesBailey

    Form Factor'ed!
    Jan 28, 2010
    873
    Arlington VA
    I've never even heard of a 375 Cheytac (I've heard of the 408...)

    Box of 20 rounds of match grade ammo? $142.

    http://www.cheytac.com/datasheets/375 350 Grain SMK Cartridge Spec Data.pdf

    That's almost as much as CCI Minimags are going for, these days. :D

    One of the Cheytac 375 cartridges (believe it is the 250gr bullet) is designed to move so fast with such a good BC that you don't need to hold/dial up to hit a man sized target at 1000yds. The projectile is moving so fast and maintains its velocity so well that you don't need to dial it out that far. Designed for deployed spec op guys. They don't care how much something costs, just if it will help them win a fight.
     

    Hopalong

    Man of Many Nicknames
    Jun 28, 2010
    2,921
    Howard County
    I can engage a target at two miles without a problem.

    No really, I can.





    Just not a target smaller than the side of a mountain.... :innocent0
     

    BenL

    John Galt Speaking.
    One of the Cheytac 375 cartridges (believe it is the 250gr bullet) is designed to move so fast with such a good BC that you don't need to hold/dial up to hit a man sized target at 1000yds. The projectile is moving so fast and maintains its velocity so well that you don't need to dial it out that far. Designed for deployed spec op guys. They don't care how much something costs, just if it will help them win a fight.

    That's beautiful. 1000 yards, no come-ups. Very nice. Lost River make the pills?

    ETA: OK, I found this:

    408 gr .375 Viking (G1 BC=1.537; this Ballistic coefficient (BC) is calculated by its designer, Mr. Lutz Möller, and not proven by Doppler radar measurements)

    It has a ballistic coefficient of 1.54!?!?

    Here's what it looks like. It even looks fast, doesn't it?

    viking_3.JPG
     

    JamesBailey

    Form Factor'ed!
    Jan 28, 2010
    873
    Arlington VA
    That's beautiful. 1000 yards, no come-ups. Very nice. Lost River make the pills?

    Not sure who makes the bullets. They are CNC turned, solid core, so you can get insanely long ogives, the factor on bullets that really drive down form factor. You can't make ogives this long using the traditional manufacturing process with lead core, copper jackets and dies.


    ETA: OK, I found this:



    It has a ballistic coefficient of 1.54!?!?

    Here's what it looks like. It even looks fast, doesn't it?

    viking_3.JPG

    I do not believe the base on that bullet is efficient. Modelling work I have seen suggests base drag will be higher with that 'reverse ogive' design. Maybe I'm off base here... Source on my thougths is McCoy's "Modern External Ballistics"
     

    smdub

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    Nov 14, 2012
    4,669
    MoCo
    I've never seen/heard of the McCoy book (but I just googled it.) And all the CFD modeling I do is *WELL* below supersonic. But looking at just about everything thats ever been designed to go fast/supersonic they all taper back to a sharp edge/point. Though I know aerodynamics are sometimes far from intiutive, so can you enlighten us on what McCoy says? Im really curious.
     

    smdub

    Ultimate Member
    MDS Supporter
    Nov 14, 2012
    4,669
    MoCo
    You can't make ogives this long using the traditional manufacturing process with lead core, copper jackets and dies.

    Im also curious as to why this is. Im somewhat in manufacturing and can 'imagine' how it would be done. But I've never seen traditional bullet processes to know how far outside it would be to how its done today. Metal pressing can be amazing to watch. Scuba tanks, for example, are made from a small round disc of metal for no seams or welds. Deep drawing something like a coke can that looks simple but is actually far from, is also neat. A dual tapered bullet seems simple in comparison. But a homogeneous core projectile has to have a more easily controlled center of mass close to its center of volume. Any jacket thickness would have to be very controlled to not affect dynamic (spin) balance.
     

    Logan

    Member
    Feb 8, 2012
    72
    That's beautiful. 1000 yards, no come-ups. Very nice. Lost River make the pills?

    ETA: OK, I found this:



    It has a ballistic coefficient of 1.54!?!?

    Here's what it looks like. It even looks fast, doesn't it?

    viking_3.JPG

    WOW, pointed on both ends. That's a gnarly looking round. That really gets enough surface area energy to propel it so far?
     

    JamesBailey

    Form Factor'ed!
    Jan 28, 2010
    873
    Arlington VA
    I've never seen/heard of the McCoy book (but I just googled it.) And all the CFD modeling I do is *WELL* below supersonic. But looking at just about everything thats ever been designed to go fast/supersonic they all taper back to a sharp edge/point. Though I know aerodynamics are sometimes far from intiutive, so can you enlighten us on what McCoy says? Im really curious.

    I will try and pull out my McCoy over the weekend. I also asked an aerospace engineer who I'm friends with what he thinks about this 'reverse ogive' profile. I could be way off and that design is the greatest thing since the G7 bullet profile was designed to replace the G1.
     

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