Streetgang
OP4
Since he posted a pic, Streetgang obviously can tell the difference between large and small
Yeah, I guess I should have stated that better the first time. I meant performance wise...
Since he posted a pic, Streetgang obviously can tell the difference between large and small
Titegroup is the popular powder in 45acp. I use 5.0 gr under a 200 LSWC, soft shooting and accurate.
W231 is also good but hard to find
45 ACP started as LPP and at some point they started SPP in this caliber too.
Given that you are looking to load just one pistol caliber, you have more flexibility as you don't need to find a powder which works for multiple calibers.
Buddy of mine turned me on to these:
Inside, by bullet Manf, and specific bullet, you get a table:
I keep these in the car and take them in when I go shopping so I can find the match between the bullets I have (or am purchasing) and the available powder.
I bought my copies at cabelas but you can find them at www.loadbooks.com
So is this powder shortage a result of all the ammo shortages from last year?
For those of you that have powder, do you normally order it online or find it in stores locally?
One thing to watch with those books is, how often are they updated? I have the same books from over 20 years ago. Are the ones you buy today updated from the latest manuals?
So here's point to ponder. Everyone always says to make sure you get the latest reloading manuals, and I think that there is a lot of wisdom to that. With that in mind, if you have successfully loaded with tried and true recipes that have been around for decades, and you only reload a few calibers, is there any true benefit to getting the latest manuals?
That's a really great question. I just dug through my reloading literature and came up with a the "Complete Reloading Manual for the 45 ACP" dated 1993. Back in the day, we had "36 various bullet designs" and "31 different powders". I see from the front cover of the 2011 manual that there are significantly more choices. Getting to tricg's question... I'm curious to find out what the current listing is for a Lyman Bullet #452630; 200 gr. (#2 alloy) with a 1.235 OAL using 5.5 gr of WW231. I've been consistently shooting the equivalent of this bullet/load for target shooting for the last 30 or so years. According to my manual that's now very old: the starting load for 231 is 5.2 gr to give 739 fps and a CUP of 12,300. Max load is: 6.5 gr for 923 fps and a CUP of 17,400... I wonder if the powder has changed significantly over the last 20 years.
Per Lyman 49th
#452630 200 grain #2 alloy 1.235" OAL.
W231 powder
Start: 5.4 grains 727 fps. 11,900 c.u.p.
Maximum: 6.1 grains 885 fps. 16,300 c.u.p.
That's a really great question. I just dug through my reloading literature and came up with a the "Complete Reloading Manual for the 45 ACP" dated 1993. Back in the day, we had "36 various bullet designs" and "31 different powders". I see from the front cover of the 2011 manual that there are significantly more choices. Getting to tricg's question... I'm curious to find out what the current listing is for a Lyman Bullet #452630; 200 gr. (#2 alloy) with a 1.235 OAL using 5.5 gr of WW231. I've been consistently shooting the equivalent of this bullet/load for target shooting for the last 30 or so years. According to my manual that's now very old: the starting load for 231 is 5.2 gr to give 739 fps and a CUP of 12,300. Max load is: 6.5 gr for 923 fps and a CUP of 17,400... I wonder if the powder has changed significantly over the last 20 years.
My favorite target load for 45acp is 4.0 gr of Hodgdon Clays, Rainier 230 gr CRN, Federal large primers and either Federal or Winchester brass. This is a very soft, smooth, clean and accurate load. For buying powder, I find I usually have pretty good success at the various gun shows.
That's a great point! The copyright date on the book pictured is 2011 and the page photocopied is for sierras 230gr RN. My 5thEd Sierra manual looks like it hasn't been updated in a while (2003) which caught me a bit surprised.
The big advantage (for me at least) is that the one book/one caliber books makes it far easier to find a single powder which may work across multiple calibers.
The one book one caliber books help me build a shopping list and I use the latest published data from the bullet Manf to work up the load.
Per Lyman 49th
#452630 200 grain #2 alloy 1.235" OAL.
W231 powder
Start: 5.4 grains 727 fps. 11,900 c.u.p.
Maximum: 6.1 grains 885 fps. 16,300 c.u.p.