Decision in Kolbe!

[j_h_smith]

This is a sick joke.

I wish it were, but I don't think so.

 

[FlatsFlite]

We need a few more 2A votes over in in VA ... just saying.

http://www.century21.com/real-estate/Virginia/LSVA/

 

[sonoramic]

This article made me vomit:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slat...mendment_doesn_t_protect_assault_weapons.html

 

[Abacab]

We need a few more 2A votes over in in VA ... just saying.

http://www.century21.com/real-estate/Virginia/LSVA/

Unless there's a great migration of government employees suffering from Trump derangement, Virginia will shortly join Maryland as an arm of the bureaucratic class. It's nearly there as is.

 

[Apd09]

This article made me vomit:



http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slat...mendment_doesn_t_protect_assault_weapons.html

I wish someone could show these judges the difference between the semi automatic and a giggle switch.

"One of the banned guns can empty a 30-round magazine in two seconds; another includes a grenade launcher"


This is patently absurd, democracy, show me where the people voted.

"Disenfranchising the American people on this life and death subject would be the gravest and most serious of steps. It is their community, not ours. It is their safety, not ours. It is their lives, not ours. To say in the wake of so many mass shootings in so many localities across this country that the people themselves are now to be rendered newly powerless, that all they can do is stand by and watch as federal courts design their destiny—this would deliver a body blow to democracy as we have known it since the very founding of this nation."


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[Vile Shadow]

I damn near drove my truck off the Bay Bridge when I heard that news idiot on WCBM say "weapons of war".

 

[protegeV]

I damn near drove my truck off the Bay Bridge when I heard that news idiot on WCBM say "weapons of war".

Oh ya haven't heard the new lib catch phase. That nonsense started sprouting about a year or so ago...

 

[danb]

What are the odds the three or four threads on this will g merged

 

[Hawkeye]

What do we do now?

We file for Cert with the Supreme Court. We've got a 90 day window, which can be extended by petition.

 

[danb]

I still cant believe 9 judges signed of on the idea that semi auto rifles are not covered under the Second Amendment. nuts!

This a dare to the Supreme Court.

Not getting my hopes up though. Not why they would take this one over others, at this time.

 

[Abacab]

I doubt cert will be granted. Tons of other good gun cases were denied while Scalia was alive. No cert will be granted until Kennedy is gone. Heller was probably neutered just to placate the California Conservative.

 

[j_h_smith]

We file for Cert with the Supreme Court. We've got a 90 day window, which can be extended by petition.

Where do we find the money for that?

 

[chooks9]

#notmycircuitcourt.

Next, SCOTUS.

 

[fidelity]

I'm not a lawyer but I have a feeling this statement means we need to take this further:

"We conclude — contrary to the now-vacated decision of our prior panel — that the banned assault weapons and large-capacity magazines are not protected by the Second Amendment. That is, we are convinced that the banned assault weapons and large-capacity magazines are among those arms that are “like” “M-16 rifles” — “weapons that are most useful in military service” — which the Heller Court singled out as being beyond the Second Amendment’s reach."

For those wondering that was found on page 9.

Wonder what the basis in Heller was to suggest that firearms adopted by the military were not available to use by civilians (even if some might have emerged from the civilian or law enforcement market). The Constitution seems to expressly state that civilians owned firearms include the types that would be potentially useful in a national or state defense context.

I still cant believe 9 judges signed of on the idea that semi auto rifles are not covered under the Second Amendment. nuts!

This a dare to the Supreme Court.

Not getting my hopes up though. Not why they would take this one over others, at this time.

I think one useful thing for the NRA to do would be to run infomercials on basic firearm facts that the media often gets wrong and through repetition these contortions become accepted as common knowledge. No political spin, no call to patriotism, etc (as much as I enjoy and think they should continue these as well), just straight information. Obviously there's lot of this on YouTube for those willing to look, but a statement of facts to a general audience. Need to play the long game, and this includes changing the distorted context of the debate.

If this crap stands, in 5 years, they'll be coming after Glock pistols. MD legislators (during the 2013 events) were talking about the prospect of revolver only ownership by civilians.

 

[Mark75H]

Jerry Miculek makes a revolver look like a full auto. We need to ban him from Youtube in order to have anything left

 

[Livingthedream]

Is there anything a single individual like me can do to help the fight?

 

[frogman68]

Wow, that is about the most ignorant thing I've read on this forum and that says a lot. How do people that don't get paid, don't get reimbursed for expenses and volunteer hundreds of hours line their pockets? As far as I can tell the direction of the cashflow from the MSI board and officers is out of their pockets and into the org. Nobody has ever taken home a freaking penny. And the org spends everything on the lawsuits and outreach.



This.

And who would have thought that Heller would have come out of DC and Mcdonald out of Chicago? or that Chicago would have shall issue before us?

The courts are the only way to win this and win it we will.

Donate and prepare for the next level.

We knew it was going to be a long hard road ...

Seems more lining is being asked for. Seems VA and WV gun right groups get results all MD gets is their groups asking for more money .

 

[protegeV]

Is there anything a single individual like me can do to help the fight?

 

[DaemonAssassin]

Is there anything a single individual like me can do to help the fight?

I second the

 

[jcutonilli]

Wonder what the basis in Heller was to suggest that firearms adopted by the military were not available to use by civilians (even if some might have emerged from the civilian or law enforcement market). The Constitution seems to expressly state that civilians owned firearms include the types that would be potentially useful in a national or state defense context.

It comes from the first sentence in the following paragraph of Heller (554 US at 627). It is a conditional sentence, where the 4CA cite the condition as evidence. From the rest of the paragraph it appears that SCOTUS was trying to say more sophisticated weapons like tanks and bomber are not covered, but small arms that you keep in your house like rifles do have protection otherwise you detach the right from the prefatory clause.

It may be objected that if weapons that are most useful
in military service—M-16 rifles and the like—may be
banned, then the Second Amendment right is completely
detached from the prefatory clause. But as we have said,
the conception of the militia at the time of the Second
Amendment’s ratification was the body of all citizens
capable of military service, who would bring the sorts of
lawful weapons that they possessed at home to militia
duty. It may well be true today that a militia, to be as
effective as militias in the 18th century, would require
sophisticated arms that are highly unusual in society at
large. Indeed, it may be true that no amount of small
arms could be useful against modern-day bombers and
tanks. But the fact that modern developments have limited
the degree of fit between the prefatory clause and the
protected right cannot change our interpretation of the
right.