AAPD - Chokehold Policy

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  • HoCoShooter

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    welder516

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    Yeah you are fighting for your life or at least to gain some control and then this shit . I say whomever came up with that stupid crap fight the BG's now .
     

    Mitral

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    Maybe the “ Mental Health ProfessionalS “ they hire will go hands on in a kinder gentler fashion
     

    [Kev308]

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    We are setting the stage for robo-cops that shoot net guns and whack you with billy clubs.
    "You are resisting arrest. (Whack) Stop resisting arrest. (Whack whack)"
     

    woodline

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    So since police now will be treated the same for discharging a firearm and placing an individual in a choke hold, they will definitely be more likely to choose the one that results in the greater personal danger to them and less personal danger to the person offering violence, right?
     

    Applehd

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    I was just gonna say that... if I am gettin' in trouble... might as well go big... shoot'em in the grape.

    Oops...forgot to add a modicum of sarcasism...:D
     

    [Kev308]

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    Honestly, this is going to lead to perps running away, and police not being able to do anything about it. Then to remedy this, cameras, drones and facial recognition will be pushed more and more, and then technology will officially have us by the bawls.
     

    FrankOceanXray

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    Don't forget that they probably are working on a department of pre-crime...

    Remember the show "Person of Interest". It was a great show. It was a great show of what's to come and already is.

    Predictive crime analysis using AI being fed all video feeds, microphones and internet of things.

    Doesn't NSA do something about intercepting all domestic communications?
     

    PO2012

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    Oct 24, 2013
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    Policies that classify all choke holds and neck restraints as deadly force are ignorant at best. Choke holds are a part of almost every viable modern martial art - BJJ in particular. In addition there's a huge difference between a head lock and a choke hold as any 8 year old on the playground can attest.

    Choke holds, when properly applied, are extremely effective and extremely safe. I know this from first hand experience. I've seen multiple suspects subdued without injury using choke holds where the only other alternative was gunfire. Choke holds save lives - Police and private citizen alike.

    Something a lot of folks forget is that the Rodney King disaster was largely a result of the LAPD prohibiting the choke hold. King was on PCP and repeatedly attacked Officers. The early prototype Tasers failed to subdue him. The only options left (given what was available to LAPD at the time) were the baton and the firearm. The Officers did what they were trained to do and what they were told was the humane thing to do - namely they hit Rodney King with their PR-24s until he stopped getting up. The result was horrifying to look at and completely avoidable had Lateral Vascular Neck Restraint been available. I will also mention, as a side note, that once upon a time I was issued a PR-24 and was hit with it in training. The nightsticks used to hit King are roughly the same weight as a loaf of Wonder Bread and they're hollow. They sting but getting hit with one is in no way comparable to being struck with a metal ASP or a wooden straight baton and far preferable to being shot.

    The choke hold should be listed in any use of force continuum in the same category as the Taser or the nightstick. Taking this tool away from Police is a huge mistake and one that will have long lasting consequences. The folks making these decisions don't understand how actual street fights operate; either that or they don't care.
     

    JerseyMike

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    Dec 16, 2019
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    https://www.baltimoresun.com/maryland/anne-arundel/ac-cn-anne-arundel-police-chokehold-change-lawsuit-20200820-6yjhlbglerbvxo2bvjz2ajtwui-story.html


    An Anne Arundel County police officer using a chokehold is now considered to be deadly force just like if they were to fire their handgun, according to department policies adjusted in the aftermath of an excessive force lawsuit filed last month.

    :sad20:
    No sleep till Portland..

    That’s been the law in DC for awhile now.
     

    joppaj

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    Apr 11, 2008
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    [Kev308];6006856 said:
    Honestly, this is going to lead to perps running away, and police not being able to do anything about it. Then to remedy this, cameras, drones and facial recognition will be pushed more and more, and then technology will officially have us by the bawls.

    Use of Force policies are being re-written to the point that lethal force is only to be used if there is NO other option. If the officer can escape from their attacker, they'll have to do that. Read the policies carefully.
     

    Matlack

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    Dec 15, 2008
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    Get close and put in choke hold or fire service weapon from a safe distance? Hmm, which should I do? Hmmm? F it, I am just going to shoot the fkr.
     

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