Buying a prohibited "assault weapon" as a Marylander... Question

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  • DanseMacabre

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    Jun 11, 2023
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    Glen Burnie, MD
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    Awesome! Thanks for all the tips on how to get legal versions of the rifles I wanted. You guys rawk! (and gals if any)

    And yeah I'm absolutely going to join MSI. They only just came onto my radar screen recently after Hogan gave back our carry rights (still keep thinking I'm either dreaming or slipped into a parallel universe on that one).

    I wish I had found these forums years ago. Already love it here!
     

    Art3

    Eqinsu Ocha
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    Jan 30, 2015
    13,375
    Harford County
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    Awesome! Thanks for all the tips on how to get legal versions of the rifles I wanted. You guys rawk! (and gals if any)

    And yeah I'm absolutely going to join MSI. They only just came onto my radar screen recently after Hogan gave back our carry rights (still keep thinking I'm either dreaming or slipped into a parallel universe on that one).

    I wish I had found these forums years ago. Already love it here!
    Hogan?!?!
    hmmm.jpg



    Hopefully you will learn a lot around here.
     

    rseymorejr

    Ultimate Member
    MDS Supporter
    Feb 28, 2011
    26,341
    Harford County
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    Awesome! Thanks for all the tips on how to get legal versions of the rifles I wanted. You guys rawk! (and gals if any)

    And yeah I'm absolutely going to join MSI. They only just came onto my radar screen recently after Hogan gave back our carry rights (still keep thinking I'm either dreaming or slipped into a parallel universe on that one).

    I wish I had found these forums years ago. Already love it here!
    Hogan didn't give anybody a thing. Clarence Thomas did. Hogan was perfectly happy with the way things were.
     

    DanseMacabre

    Member
    Jun 11, 2023
    40
    Glen Burnie, MD
    Hogan didn't give anybody a thing. Clarence Thomas did. Hogan was perfectly happy with the way things were.
    True, but he did instruct Md State Popo to stop denying applicants. If it had been a leftist in the governor's mansion, they'd have ignored the SC ruling or thrown up some other legal obstruction like they do in every other state. Is this not correct? I've been watching a lot of 2A advocacy channels on youtube the last couple years & that sounds about right to me.

    I'm going for my CCW as we speak & fully expect if I wait much longer I'll lose my chance. I desperately need it as I'm in an extremely dangerous line of work, one subject to constant robberies & carjackings. Being able to carry will lift a huge weight off my shoulders.
     

    ken792

    Ultimate Member
    Sep 2, 2011
    4,495
    Fairfax, VA
    True, but he did instruct Md State Popo to stop denying applicants. If it had been a leftist in the governor's mansion, they'd have ignored the SC ruling or thrown up some other legal obstruction like they do in every other state. Is this not correct? I've been watching a lot of 2A advocacy channels on youtube the last couple years & that sounds about right to me.

    I'm going for my CCW as we speak & fully expect if I wait much longer I'll lose my chance. I desperately need it as I'm in an extremely dangerous line of work, one subject to constant robberies & carjackings. Being able to carry will lift a huge weight off my shoulders.
    I think people wanted Hogan to simply order state police to consider self-defense to be “good and substantial” long ago.

    There’s also signing these bills rather than just letting them become law after the default time.

     

    smokey

    2A TEACHER
    Jan 31, 2008
    31,569
    Your options...
    a) Move
    b) view md's infringements as unconstitutional on their face and disregard them
    c) follow md law.
     

    coinboy

    Yeah, Sweet Lemonade.
    Oct 22, 2007
    4,480
    Howard County
    True, but he did instruct Md State Popo to stop denying applicants. If it had been a leftist in the governor's mansion, they'd have ignored the SC ruling or thrown up some other legal obstruction like they do in every other state. Is this not correct? I've been watching a lot of 2A advocacy channels on youtube the last couple years & that sounds about right to me.

    I'm going for my CCW as we speak & fully expect if I wait much longer I'll lose my chance. I desperately need it as I'm in an extremely dangerous line of work, one subject to constant robberies & carjackings. Being able to carry will lift a huge weight off my shoulders.
    I believe this is the proper timeline.

    I believe Hogan's hand was forced and not necessarily his choice.

    NYSRPA v. Bruen decided by US Supreme Court on June 23rd, 2022.

    Matter of Williams Rounds was decided by the Maryland Court of Special Appeals on July 1st, 2022.

    Hogan rescinded the order of MSP requiring a "good and substantial reason" on July 5th, 2022.

    For the historians: SB1 signed by governor Moore on 5/16/2023 in response to Bruen.
     
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    Garet Jax

    Not ignored by gamer_jim
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    May 5, 2011
    6,818
    Bel Air
    I want to buy several rifles prohibited by Maryland's "assault weapons" ban but, like many of you, am not permitted to do so. My question is as follows:

    Am I allowed to purchase the prohibited guns outside of the state where it's not illegal & simply store them in a rented locker or will my MD driver's license & residency here force me to be bound by these stupid laws everywhere I go?

    Asked my local gun shop owner this & he was stumped. I want a Garand, a Ruger Mini-14, a Ruger Mini-30, a whole slieu of AKs beside a Draco, & many other long guns now forbidden to me. I've wanted them for years & am sick & tired of being denied my 2A right to own them. I'm willing to store them in another state & periodically commute there to enjoy my rifles at a local range. The question I have is am I allowed to do this legally?

    Any advice welcome, thanks!

    ~Danse

    No out of state FFL will sell you a banned MD firearm and let you "walk out the door". You will have to ship to an in-state FFL which is where you will get into trouble with purchasing a banned MD rifle. The only way to do this legally is to change the law or to move to state where purchase and ownership is legal.
     
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    Inigoes

    Head'n for the hills
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    Dec 21, 2008
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    SoMD / West PA
    The simple answer to you being able to purchase prohibited firearms is to move to another state!

    PS: If you want to keep those prohibited firearms, never come back!

    (Garet beat me to it)
     

    adit

    ReMember
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    Feb 20, 2013
    19,830
    DE
    No out of state FFL will sell you a firearm and let you "walk out the door". You will have to ship to an in-state FFL which is where you will get into trouble with purchasing a banned MD rifle. The only way to do this legally is to change the law or to move to state where purchase and ownership is legal.
    That's not true. If the firearm (non-handgun) is legal in both states you can walk out the door with it.

    Only handguns would need to go to a MD FFL.
     

    Mark75H

    MD Wear&Carry Instructor
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    Sep 25, 2011
    17,307
    Outside the Gates
    No out of state FFL will sell you a firearm and let you "walk out the door". You will have to ship to an in-state FFL which is where you will get into trouble with purchasing a banned MD rifle. The only way to do this legally is to change the law or to move to state where purchase and ownership is legal.
    Adit is correct you can purchase long guns in adjacent states provided they are legal in your state of residence.
     

    DanseMacabre

    Member
    Jun 11, 2023
    40
    Glen Burnie, MD
    The simple answer to you being able to purchase prohibited firearms is to move to another state!

    PS: If you want to keep those prohibited firearms, never come back!

    (Garet beat me to it)
    That brings up another thing I'm unclear on. If a person owns prohibited guns & moves here from out of state, they have to surrender those firearms before becoming a state resident? I'd have thought it would be legal. Sort of like guns grandfathered in or purchased prior to the ban.
     

    Inigoes

    Head'n for the hills
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    Dec 21, 2008
    49,663
    SoMD / West PA
    That brings up another thing I'm unclear on. If a person owns prohibited guns & moves here from out of state, they have to surrender those firearms before becoming a state resident? I'd have thought it would be legal. Sort of like guns grandfathered in or purchased prior to the ban.
    You gotta get rid of them unless you have document that states ownership prior to 2013

    The only other option is to keep them stored out of state.
     

    adit

    ReMember
    MDS Supporter
    Feb 20, 2013
    19,830
    DE
    Adit is correct you can purchase long guns in adjacent states provided they are legal in your state of residence.
    "Adjacent" states is gone from the law as well. It is now "ANY" state.
     

    ken792

    Ultimate Member
    Sep 2, 2011
    4,495
    Fairfax, VA
    No out of state FFL will sell you a firearm and let you "walk out the door". You will have to ship to an in-state FFL which is where you will get into trouble with purchasing a banned MD rifle. The only way to do this legally is to change the law or to move to state where purchase and ownership is legal.
    I know plenty of non-MD FFLs who are willing to transfer legal long guns to MD residents to the full extent allowed by law.

    I’ve even heard of instances of some who don’t realize MD has a ban list and will risk their own license by transferring banned long guns to MD residents.
     

    Garet Jax

    Not ignored by gamer_jim
    MDS Supporter
    May 5, 2011
    6,818
    Bel Air
    That's not true. If the firearm (non-handgun) is legal in both states you can walk out the door with it.

    Only handguns would need to go to a MD FFL.

    Sorry was talking about a banned MD firearm. Quite frankly, I'd be surprised if any out of state FFL would risk their license by selling an MD resident a gun without shipping to an MD based FFL. The MD laws are so convoluted, it's hard enough for MD folks to stay on top of them - let alone any from outside.

    PS - I've had 2 MD FFLs tell me something that was just wrong. I called them to try and understand the law better - I figured calling 2 would hedge my bets against incorrect information - I was wrong.
     

    chilipeppermaniac

    Ultimate Member
    MDS Supporter
    The simple answer to you being able to purchase prohibited firearms is to move to another state!

    PS: If you want to keep those prohibited firearms, never come back!

    (Garet beat me to it)

    I miss the country where there were virtually NO prohibited firearms.
    We literally need to go back to that.

    Speaking of which.

    I was watching Fox45 news and a good story was on the air.
    The Newsgirl was interviewing a Middle aged Black man ( I think he was a city Pastor or something)
    The questions she asked him pertained to his take on the City's measures at curbing crime, how 89% of the population feels that illegally possessing a firearm needs to be a felony, and what he thought about whether Moore was going to be much of a difference maker.

    Straight up from the mouth of what might have been a perfect liberal came a 180 degree different message, The MAGA " WHITE SUPREMACIST" opinion from an inner city black man. When he spoke, out came came these words.

    NO, Moore wants to be President. He is going to do what is best to get him the goods needed to run for President against Newscum.
    The MGA is not going to enact real laws that will curb crime because they are going after Law abiding gun owners and coddling the criminals. ( Somehow I hear this same sentiment from our 2A Patriots)

    He essentially said the voters do not see the problem and the problem is getting worse, crime wise.
    He essentially made our point that only we who obey the law, are being hamstrung by those in power, and that the perverse philosophy of letting criminals off easy, is the recipe for continued and increased dangerous crime.
     

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