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MGA proposing lead ammo ban for hunting
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Actual Bill- SB 0983
Title Hunting - Lead and Lead-Based Ammunition - Phase-Out
Requiring the Department of Natural Resources to establish a certain process to phase out on or before December 31, 2026, the use of lead or lead-based ammunition for hunting; and requiring the Department to establish a process to certify ammunition as nonlead ammunition.
THE TEXT HAS NOT BEEN RELEASED YET.
Title Hunting - Lead and Lead-Based Ammunition - Phase-Out
Requiring the Department of Natural Resources to establish a certain process to phase out on or before December 31, 2026, the use of lead or lead-based ammunition for hunting; and requiring the Department to establish a process to certify ammunition as nonlead ammunition.
THE TEXT HAS NOT BEEN RELEASED YET.
Maybe not. Since muzzle loaders aren't firearms, perhaps muzzle loading projectiles aren't "ammunition".
Traditional Ammunition (Lead)
- The use of traditional (lead) ammunition is currently under attack by many anti-hunting groups whose ultimate goal is to ban hunting. Traditional ammunition does not and has not negatively impacted wildlife populations in North America and is far more effective and affordable for American hunters.
- Take the California example: in 2007, California banned the use of lead ammunition for hunting big game in the California Condor zone. Despite 99% hunter compliance, the ban has failed to reduce lead poisoning in condors.[1] It is likely that industrial lead compounds, which are much different from the metallic lead used in ammunition, are responsible for many of the lead poisonings falsely attributed to lead ammunition.
- While lead ammunition opponents claim that the ammunition should be banned to prevent occasional lead poisonings in eagles and other raptors, the population of bald eagles—removed from the list of threatened and endangered species in 2007—is at an all-time high. The latest data from the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service showed the number of breeding pairs thriving in the United States in 2006 at 9,789 pairs compared to 487 pairs in 1963.[2]
- In the United States, wildlife experts do not manage wildlife based on single mortality incidents or emotions. Our country’s wildlife management practices are based on the North American Model of Wildlife Conservation, which is widely recognized as the best in the world. For more than a century, wildlife in the United States has been successfully managed through this model and has led to an incredible restoration of multiple species.
- A decrease in the purchase of traditional ammunition would adversely affect conservation funding. Hunters and target shooters are the largest supporters of conservation through excise taxes levied on ammunition, firearms and hunting equipment by the Pittman-Robertson Act of 1937, which has generated more than $7.2 billion in funding for wildlife conservation programs.
- A 2008 CDC study on the prevalence of lead in the bloodstreams of 738 residents of North Dakota found levels of lead lower than those in the general population, with 86 percent of those tested reporting that they consumed meat from wild game killed with the use of lead ammunition.[3]
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- Jan 30, 2013
- 34,287
Dollars to donuts that within the next five years an enlightened MD Gen ASS legislator will propose in all sincerity and with a straight face that all hunting ammunition shall be non-lethal. It will have overwhelming support.
remrug
Ultimate Member
We both were. Was the last time we hunted there.
Slackdaddy
My pronouns: Iva/Bigun
- Jan 1, 2019
- 5,989
Has the good senator produced the study or science that warrants the need to ban lead based ammo?
It took me over 8 types of .22 that would group in my Marlin 39A,, so where am I finding this subsonic .22 hollow point ??
It took me over 8 types of .22 that would group in my Marlin 39A,, so where am I finding this subsonic .22 hollow point ??
This is something that people have talked about for years.
1. All ammo with lead is bad for the environment and must be banned.
2. All ammo made with metals harder than lead is "armor piercing" and must be banned.
DU has been on the list since the list was originally made, back in 1989.
I believe the "banned in commission of a crime" list was already in effect when the DC sniper's happened. I would have to go back and look at the legislative history to be sure.
You are reading it wrong.
What you are reading is the current law that is affect today.
They have yet to make the actual bill they are proposing public, which is odd since we are now 5 days past the first reading.
- Dec 27, 2012
- 30,254
I used two 9mm spent casings as exhaust pipes on my son’s pinewood derby car one year. It ran terrible but looked cool.
The MGA stuff is indeed exhausting .
dblas,
Not sure how either scenario makes a difference. If I read it wrong and parts are already in effect like as far back as DC sniper, my point is that SNIPING is already illegal, WTF does it matter what type ammo is used? WHY do they single out lead, depleted uranium etc?
My point was that faulty "logic" in the wording of the legislation still strikes me as idiotic and criminal in itself on the part of the law makers.
Even if this language is in effect from long ago, my point is that these jackazz legislators are using language that amounts to using a sledge hammer to do brain surgery. In other words. Why the hell is there a Statute, with the subset "B" at all, that uses language excluding the use of lead based bullets while committing a violent crime? Shouldn't the 1000's of laws that state that VIOLENT CRIMES are already illegal and are CRIMES, be enough of a precedent to convict criminals who do violent crimes? What difference does it make to add a whole other stipulation about what type bullet one uses to commit a murder, a mass murder, a hijacking, a murder suicide, etc? Does anyone see my point?
In other words, WTF does it matter if you use a cop killer round or a poison dart, or a lead spitzer to kill someone? You get a pass if you use environmentally friendly ammo?
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Criminals gonna Criminal................ For example and I know it it Hollywood, but Sopranos, Hannibal, The Wire, Homicide, Life in the Streets.... Hunter Biden...
I'm so confused, I thought lead was naturally occurring in the environment, since it comes from the earth.
Time to ban the environment.
Doctortoxic
The Dose Makes The Poison
Surprise surprise. The Bill’s author’s first name is Karen.
And why has Maryland Shall Issue not taken a stance on this? I get that it’s a hunting issue primarily but it’s also a back door attempt to ban all lead ammunition. Very disappointed with MSI that their website lists this bill as “information only/ no position”.
And also, this filthy Dem isn’t doing her due diligence. No carve out for LEO, DNR, and other Govt sharpshooters that I can see.
And why has Maryland Shall Issue not taken a stance on this? I get that it’s a hunting issue primarily but it’s also a back door attempt to ban all lead ammunition. Very disappointed with MSI that their website lists this bill as “information only/ no position”.
And also, this filthy Dem isn’t doing her due diligence. No carve out for LEO, DNR, and other Govt sharpshooters that I can see.
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Slackdaddy
My pronouns: Iva/Bigun
- Jan 1, 2019
- 5,989
This legislation comes straight from the anti-hunting groups,, the senator is just a proxy.
Worsley
I apologize for hurting your feelings!
Doesn’t lead come out of the ground?
Muleskinner
Ultimate Member
Lead comes from the earth..I'm just putting it back, so another "law" I won't be complying with...you want to look at my ammo? Go get a warrant and come back...
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