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  • fabsroman

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    Mar 14, 2009
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    Winfield/Taylorsville in Carroll
    It is a bit of everything. The US has twice as many people in it as there were 60 years ago.

    Those people have to live somewhere and they are going to enjoy things too. A lot more people from cities and suburbs do "outdoor recreation" than 60 years ago too.

    So you likely have 3x as many people headed to places that haven't gotten any bigger.

    What?

    Population is growing and the amount of land and waterways is remaining constant? No way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    This has been something that has been in case law since common law was established in England. All kinds of fights as to who has access to hunting, fishing, the use of the water coming down a river, etc. Lots of property law stuff out there.

    I am trying to get my own hunting property. Some tillable land that I can groom for hunting. Might join a hunt club for $50,000 that has 240 acres for hunting, but it is over an hour drive to get there.

    Access has been an issue ever since I started hunting some 45 years ago. Back then though, my parents and aunt/uncle owned property in PA and that was a little slice of Heaven. Never know how good we had it until the property was sold. I am looking to replicate the same experience for my kids.
     

    John from MD

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    May 12, 2005
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    Socialist State of Maryland
    What?

    Population is growing and the amount of land and waterways is remaining constant? No way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    This has been something that has been in case law since common law was established in England. All kinds of fights as to who has access to hunting, fishing, the use of the water coming down a river, etc. Lots of property law stuff out there.

    I am trying to get my own hunting property. Some tillable land that I can groom for hunting. Might join a hunt club for $50,000 that has 240 acres for hunting, but it is over an hour drive to get there.

    Access has been an issue ever since I started hunting some 45 years ago. Back then though, my parents and aunt/uncle owned property in PA and that was a little slice of Heaven. Never know how good we had it until the property was sold. I am looking to replicate the same experience for my kids.

    That's how it was when I grew up. My grandparents had property and we would spend all summer there. When I came home from Vietnam, it was sold and Utopia has been impossible to find since. :sad20:
     

    lazarus

    Ultimate Member
    Jun 23, 2015
    13,726
    What?

    Population is growing and the amount of land and waterways is remaining constant? No way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    This has been something that has been in case law since common law was established in England. All kinds of fights as to who has access to hunting, fishing, the use of the water coming down a river, etc. Lots of property law stuff out there.

    I am trying to get my own hunting property. Some tillable land that I can groom for hunting. Might join a hunt club for $50,000 that has 240 acres for hunting, but it is over an hour drive to get there.

    Access has been an issue ever since I started hunting some 45 years ago. Back then though, my parents and aunt/uncle owned property in PA and that was a little slice of Heaven. Never know how good we had it until the property was sold. I am looking to replicate the same experience for my kids.

    Ditto on your last. I’d like to retired maybe up to Vermont, NH or ME. No idea if it’ll happen.

    But until then I’d like to get at least a dozen acres or so I could hunt. Even if it isn’t huge. Something I could put a small cabin on and at least get away from things more. Ideally I’d love 30-40 acres. 200 would be heaven. But I doubt that would ever happen with my plans.

    I was thinking out in Garret, Allegheny or Washington counties. Now I am tossing up between Northern Carrol or Frederick for that dozen or so acres. Or maybe deal with the longer drive and get more land on the Eastern shore. But not sure I want to put up with driving 2+ hours to get there. But in some quick looking several 30-40 acre properties under $100k and I could probably lease most of it out for ag to cover at least carrying costs.

    I’d probably rather 12 acres within a 45 minute drive than 40 acres 2hrs away all else equal.

    Hopefully I could buy a bigger property close to retirement. But until then I’d rather something I can enjoy in the next 2-4 years for a decade plus than having to wait maybe 10-15 years before I can really afford what and where I’d want to retire (and have the time to get there since it might be 8hrs away).

    Can use the property back here if the kids stay in the area by putting a house in. Or sell it.
     

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