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  • outrider58

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    Jul 29, 2014
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    ...for PCCs. I've got a couple PCC builds in the works and I want to go with a drop in trigger group. I haven't decided a preference for single stage -v- two stage so I am open to any and all suggestions. These will not be 'race' guns, per se. More likely HD and range shooting, but don't let that deter your recommendations. :)
     

    cotman68

    Active Member
    Feb 21, 2010
    796
    Stewartstown, Pa
    I only have 1 drop in trigger. All my other ones are Larue or Geisselle. The drop in is a CMC flat face that I use in my 10.5” pistol build that has around 4,000 rounds through it and I really like it. No complaints at all.
     

    teratos

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    Jan 22, 2009
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    I have a Geiselle SSA-E in one and B-GRF in another. Work great. LaRue MBTs are built like tanks.
     

    RRomig

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    Aug 30, 2021
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    Burtonsville MD
    PCC AR's are extremely hard on triggers. I see them destroy drop in triggers often.
    I have heard that but don’t know anyone with personal experience. I have drop ins on all my ARs. Timney , rise , cmc and have never had a problem with any of them and the price range was 280 to 80. But my 9mm rifle and pistol have yet to get triggers. So I’m hoping someone gives more info on the drop ins on this use
    Thanks
     

    SkiPatrolDude

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    Oct 24, 2017
    3,331
    Timonium-Lutherville
    My only experience with drop in triggers are with a Timney Impact and 2 Rise Armament Rave140's.

    Something to note is that the Rave140 is the "gen 2" of the RA140. The RA140 had some issues and the Rave140 was released to address it (mainly removing adjustment of a set screw needed to properly seat the trigger in the lower).

    Between the Timney and the Rave140, the Rave140 wins hands down in terms of feel. Although, 1 of 2 of my Rave140 triggers has begun to develop some creep. I think the fixed set screw may have begun to loosen up on me.

    All in all I think I will be avoiding most drop in triggers in the future. With great options from Larue and a few others, why bother?
     

    teratos

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    I have heard that but don’t know anyone with personal experience. I have drop ins on all my ARs. Timney , rise , cmc and have never had a problem with any of them and the price range was 280 to 80. But my 9mm rifle and pistol have yet to get triggers. So I’m hoping someone gives more info on the drop ins on this use
    Thanks

    You may have just gotten the best advice on which drop in to get for a PCC...none.

    That said, I would imagine if the clown were using a delayed blowback mechanism, it would be much easier on the trigger.
     

    outrider58

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    PCC AR's are extremely hard on triggers. I see them destroy drop in triggers often.
    I was under the impression that drop-ins were preferable for PCCs, at least the ones made for such duty. Am I to be stuck with a basic mil-spec AR trigger group? Hmm...

    You may have just gotten the best advice on which drop in to get for a PCC...none.

    That said, I would imagine if the clown were using a delayed blowback mechanism, it would be much easier on the trigger.

    You know it Doc.
     

    omegared24

    Ultimate Member
    Dec 23, 2011
    4,747
    Ijamsville, MD
    PCC AR's are extremely hard on triggers. I see them destroy drop in triggers often.

    I tried to explain this to a friend of mine but he insists that "he's never had a problem". So now I just send him deals on those triggers and let him have at it.

    I generally stick by the controversy rule. If an argument exists it is typically for a reason and you don't want to learn the hard way.
     

    Ski169

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    May 28, 2012
    939
    This explains some issues with the FCG on Colt pattern PCCs that may help. I’m getting one of the hammers for my Colt 6951 as I have noticed the beginnings of the impact marks. Since I don’t know how to post the video correctly, it’s Chris Bartocci from SAS discussing the FCG on Colt pattern PCCs and a fix from Centurion Arms with a new hammer.

    https://youtu.be/5zq-Bgkg694
     

    outrider58

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    Jul 29, 2014
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    This explains some issues with the FCG on Colt pattern PCCs that may help. I’m getting one of the hammers for my Colt 6951 as I have noticed the beginnings of the impact marks. Since I don’t know how to post the video correctly, it’s Chris Bartocci from SAS discussing the FCG on Colt pattern PCCs and a fix from Centurion Arms with a new hammer.

    https://youtu.be/5zq-Bgkg694

     

    John from MD

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    May 12, 2005
    22,733
    Socialist State of Maryland
    For slow fire, precision shooting, I have used Krieger Milazzo, Rock River and LaRue. For fast PCC shooting, I have tried several but the best I have found is the Rave 140 straight trigger, made by Rise Armament. They have no creep and a short reset and have not failed me through thousands of rounds of 9mm and 300 Blackout. Obviously I don't shoot the 300 as fast as the 9mm - but I try. :D
     

    outrider58

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    I have a dozen drop ins from Rise Armaments. They usually go on sale for under $100 and there's various models
    with features that add a few $...

    https://www.primaryarms.com/search?keywords=rise armaments

    I have heard that but don’t know anyone with personal experience. I have drop ins on all my ARs. Timney , rise , cmc and have never had a problem with any of them and the price range was 280 to 80. But my 9mm rifle and pistol have yet to get triggers. So I’m hoping someone gives more info on the drop ins on this use
    Thanks

    My only experience with drop in triggers are with a Timney Impact and 2 Rise Armament Rave140's.

    Something to note is that the Rave140 is the "gen 2" of the RA140. The RA140 had some issues and the Rave140 was released to address it (mainly removing adjustment of a set screw needed to properly seat the trigger in the lower).

    Between the Timney and the Rave140, the Rave140 wins hands down in terms of feel. Although, 1 of 2 of my Rave140 triggers has begun to develop some creep. I think the fixed set screw may have begun to loosen up on me.

    All in all I think I will be avoiding most drop in triggers in the future. With great options from Larue and a few others, why bother?

    For slow fire, precision shooting, I have used Krieger Milazzo, Rock River and LaRue. For fast PCC shooting, I have tried several but the best I have found is the Rave 140 straight trigger, made by Rise Armament. They have no creep and a short reset and have not failed me through thousands of rounds of 9mm and 300 Blackout. Obviously I don't shoot the 300 as fast as the 9mm - but I try. :D

    So far, it appears the RA 140 gets the popular vote, though there are still some's opinions I'm still waiting to hear and I am in no hurry. Whatever I decide, in my usual fashion, I'll try one and go from there(I'll try almost anything once :rolleyes:).
     

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