CAS_Shooter
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I'm glad this debate was finally settled(/sarcasm).
I side with Steelteacher.
I side with Steelteacher.
Is a 22LR or 25ACP Better for SELF-DEFENCE?
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FHJ69
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Forty years ago when I was a manager for a fast food restaurant chain I had a Beretta 950BS Jetfire in .25 ACP. When I was the closing manager I would keep in with me. I wasn't worried about stopping crime in the streets but if we were held up and being marched back into the walk-in refrigerator I figured I would have nothing to lose at that point (that exact thing happened to a Roy Rogers crew a few years earlier in NOVA). I knew having a pistol was against the rules and could have gotten me dismissed but I made that decision willingly.
I also knew to try and use something as effective as possible. I carried was was supposedly the best .25 ammunition available on the market at the time...the Winchester load with a BB in the nose which was allegedly to help the bullet expand. As it was, the restaurant was help up one night but I wasn't working...no one was hurt.
Later I bought some .25 ammunition since banned as it's supposed to penetrate body armor. I purchased it prior to the ban and still have it...can't sell or otherwise transfer it due to it being a violation so I guess it's just a curiosity now. Maybe I should simply shoot it up.
Wow! I have a bunch of that ammo too. I had no idea that it was banned.
Wardove
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Now that I am legalized in Georgia and encouraged by the sheriff…it depends how I am dressed what I routinely carry. Quick run to the store and it’s a Guardian 32 in my pocket. Feel a little more formal, the 365 Sig on my belly. Maybe going to the woods, Glock 27. Going to the woods, Springfield XDm elite 10 mm. Probably a rifle in the truck too. I do have a couple of the North American 22s that my wife uses for earrings.
IMHO .380 ACP (9mm short) is the bare minimum for self preservation from other humans. You can get some pretty hot .380 defense rounds.
Unless you're close enough to shove the barrel up the perps nose or in their eye or ear... forget about anything less than a .380 ACP.
Unless you're close enough to shove the barrel up the perps nose or in their eye or ear... forget about anything less than a .380 ACP.
TheOriginalMexicanBob
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In my limited experience with .25 pistols the Beretta Jetfire was and is completely reliable. Many years ago I had a RG26 in .25...it may have been a cheaply made pistol but it always worked. There's also the early Seecamp .25 but they're more a collectible now than anything when you can find one.
The only .25 I have now is a Colt 1908 Vest Pocket which I've yet to try out. Too many others to shoot first.
Wheaton Hills Sportsman
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- Jan 27, 2012
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Depends on the gun.
Colt 1908, Beretta 950, 21
My Colt 1908 is very reliable, and surprisingly accurate.
Biggfoot44
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- Aug 2, 2009
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What John said , plus :
Regular and Baby Browning
Bauer - Clone of Baby in stainless
Most Astra .
Colt Junior was a rebadged Astra . Same pistol also sold by Astra , and as the FIE BEST
Regular and Baby Browning
Bauer - Clone of Baby in stainless
Most Astra .
Colt Junior was a rebadged Astra . Same pistol also sold by Astra , and as the FIE BEST
Mike OTDP
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Cz-45 as well. It's the gun the Seecamp was based on.
Biggfoot44
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I knew there was a CZ there , just wasn't sure the model # .
10mmAuto
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- Feb 22, 2013
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Are .25 ACP Pistols still legal in MD ?
I have a few Walther .25 ACP Pistols I'd like to sell -- are these small "25 acp pocket/vest" pistols still legal to own/sell in MD to a MD buyer?
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I have a few Walther .25 ACP Pistols I'd like to sell -- are these small "25 acp pocket/vest" pistols still legal to own/sell in MD to a MD buyer?
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Biggfoot44
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The Handgun Roster only applies to guns manufactured after the enactment of the Roster , in 1994-ish . Your older Walthers would be unaffected .
10mmAuto
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- Feb 22, 2013
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Thanks -- good to know. I'll be posting several firearms on GB after 1st of the year -- search username Colonial_Oak. I am happy to work with MD buyers to limit xfer and shipping fees, via MSP and/or Local FFL for the xfer, it its worth the effort.
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How many bitches you workin’, dawg?
I think a fence is the best defence
For those making a call on center-fire vs rimfire, just remember that the .25 ACP is NOT the smallest centerfire pistol caliber. If you want to be super-fly and spend $200 per round (if you can find it), you can go with 2.7 x 9mm Kolibri.
The centerfire primer alone fired the 3-grain, 10-caliber unjacketed lead bullet that headspaces at the chamber, generating a blistering 650-fps when it left the muzzle. The round only generated about 3ft/lbs of energy at its most powerful, which meant it could bounce off thick clothing. For reference, the 9.6-grain Gamo Rocket .177 caliber airgun pellet when fired from a quality air rifle at 800fps generates 17.92 ft. /lbs of energy.
The centerfire primer alone fired the 3-grain, 10-caliber unjacketed lead bullet that headspaces at the chamber, generating a blistering 650-fps when it left the muzzle. The round only generated about 3ft/lbs of energy at its most powerful, which meant it could bounce off thick clothing. For reference, the 9.6-grain Gamo Rocket .177 caliber airgun pellet when fired from a quality air rifle at 800fps generates 17.92 ft. /lbs of energy.
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