100 DAY Background Check???

Rack&Roll · Mar 15, 2013

This post below from the MSP Background thread refers to someone at MSP predicting background checks running 100 days by next month. Can anyone else confirm this statement ?

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just got off the phone with my FFL...filed 2/12 and was told at that time that it would be about 30 days. today is about 30 days so i called to see what he knew. he told be that it would probably be closer to 45 days or more (two more weeks) he said he is just now getting 2/1 stuff back. he also mentioned that the MSP told him that by april it will probably be over 100 days...

codefive · Mar 15, 2013

How can that be? We all know the MAJORITY of Marylanders dont like guns, the newspaper says so. so where are all these people coming from? :rolleyes:

MadCat0911 · Mar 15, 2013

And yet somehow we're going to increase the paperwork burden on MSP and add mandatory firearms training at a range?

plinkerton · Mar 15, 2013

codefive said:
How can that be? We all know the MAJORITY of Marylanders dont like guns, the newspaper says so. so where are all these people coming from?

I bought 3, my GF bought 1, friends I have introduced to shooting in the last few weeks another 5, another friend is saving for 1.

And I have another one sitting at the FFL waiting for March 28 when I can start my "7 day" :banghead:

wait again.

yournamehere · Mar 15, 2013

If this is true, are we going to see some action from MSI or the NRA?

44man · Mar 15, 2013

i posted somewhere yesterday that i spoke to my ffl since i was at 28 days and he told me he got some of 1-30 back yesterday and it will be at least 2 or 3 more weeks for me and that they told him the wait will be getting longer.

bad for me since i am waiting on one and waiting on my cesignated collector and have another sitting and paid for that i cant send paperwork in on.

i just dont understand why if we are paying $10 per regulated firearm that they cant get more help in there. bigger back up seems to mean more money on there end. if they dont get more help its just gonna get worse.

Atlasarmory · Mar 15, 2013

This is good news we need to totally break the system. it looks like we are doing it :thumbsup:

Dirichlet · Mar 15, 2013

I have at least four going in over the next two months... let's hope I can get the :thumbsup:

from MSP before Oct 1 :sad20:

Lagmeister1950 · Mar 15, 2013

Atlasarmory said:
This is good news we need to totally break the system. it looks like we are doing it

How is this good news? What about the person that ordered one handgun online. The FFL has it locked in a safe. The safe is clogged with other guns. If the system breaks, you can't send the gun back and you can't pick it up.

For the walk in customer guns have dried up. Online orders are backing up. So, if we are going to 100 days then all the guns purchased in January are still waiting to go through the system along with the few purchased by the single purchase customer who has no interest in trying to "break the system," as it were.

I find this attitude extremely disheartening. I have posted several times what I thought was going on. At least now someone is honest enough to brag about it.

Good luck for for the new folks joining the 2A fight once they get to this forum and get the straight news as to why they cannot get their single purchase. :innocent0

MarylandDave · Mar 15, 2013

Dirichlet said:
I have at least four going in over the next two months... let's hope I can get the from MSP before Oct 1

And if we don't get the :thumbsup:

before Oct 1, what does that mean? They can't hold us accountable because of clerical mis-management on their end, can they? Oh hell...

Lagmeister1950 · Mar 15, 2013

MarylandDave said:
And if we don't get the before Oct 1, what does that mean? They can't hold us accountable because of clerical mis-management on their end, can they? Oh hell...

Obviously the MSP keep seeing the same names over and over again. I am surprised that they have even brought in extra help. Perhaps once the law is passed they will virtually stop processing. If people complain the answer will be that it is just a bunch of gun hoarders trying to get ahead of the law.

My one gun was put into the system the end of February. I am now beginning to doubt I will ever see it.

cdstraw · Mar 15, 2013

MadCat0911 said:
And yet somehow we're going to increase the paperwork burden on MSP and add mandatory firearms training at a range?

Yes, we will. This is a great real time illustration to our legislators that their "common sense" legislation won't hold water in the real world. Only in an intellectual, legislative sense does it work. Actual processing and handling of paperwork is much more complicated than their belief.

As painful as this is, and I'm included in the wait for "not disapproved", this works to our benefit to show what is proposed is ridiculous.

My $.02

FrankZ · Mar 15, 2013

44man said:
i just dont understand why if we are paying $10 per regulated firearm that they cant get more help in there.

It would eat into the profit margin. Labor is usually a business's biggest expense.

Pmbspyder · Mar 15, 2013

100 days!? That's over a quarter YEAR for a 7 day check.

It seems they keep back peddling. Apps that went in months ago that were told 25-30 days are now being told 45. Mine went in at the beginning of the month and I was told 45 days. I'm sure it will be more like 60-75 by the time I see my gun.

How does this get fixed and what's our course of action?

Brychan · Mar 15, 2013

Hey how about sending your complaints to your senators, reps and the AG?

Pmbspyder · Mar 15, 2013

Brychan said:
Hey how about sending your complaints to your senators, reps and the AG?

I've done this more times than I can count (including phone calls). I mean can we do anything short term to speed this up. Something that doesn't equate to pissing in the wind.

You think frosh is going to lose any sleep over our complaints that it takes half a year to buy a regulated firearm?

44man · Mar 15, 2013

FrankZ said:
It would eat into the profit margin. Labor is usually a business's biggest expense.

who's profit margin? the state? they dont have enough sense to break even must less turn a profit. and they want us to do and pay more? if this is a prview of that we are truely screwed.

Schwabe · Mar 15, 2013

Of course this all just political theater, there is NO WAY THAT applications have increased over December and January. There is nothing to be bought, all local stores are emtpy with regulated stuff. This is just plain stall tactics by the MSP. Sorry there is absolutely no justification that the waiting time should increase anymore based on application load.

Brychan · Mar 15, 2013

Pmbspyder said:
I've done this more times than I can count (including phone calls). I mean can we do anything short term to speed this up. Something that doesn't equate to pissing in the wind.

You think frosh is going to lose any sleep over our complaints that it takes half a year to buy a regulated firearm?

I doubt most will truly care, but it shows that what they already have in place doesn't work well and what they are going to add is going to make it worse. So it is basicially being a squeeky wheel. If we are bitching now and they add more bs for the MSP to do their life will just get worse, unless they turn off their computers and phones.

Frosh might lose sleep if he is your senator and you are an early bird and call him at home.

Atlasarmory · Mar 15, 2013

Lagmeister1950 said:
How is this good news? What about the person that ordered one handgun online. The FFL has it locked in a safe. The safe is clogged with other guns. If the system breaks, you can't send the gun back and you can't pick it up.

For the walk in customer guns have dried up. Online orders are backing up. So, if we are going to 100 days then all the guns purchased in January are still waiting to go through the system along with the few purchased by the single purchase customer who has no interest in trying to "break the system," as it were.

I find this attitude extremely disheartening. I have posted several times what I thought was going on. At least now someone is honest enough to brag about it.

Good luck for for the new folks joining the 2A fight once they get to this forum and get the straight news as to why they cannot get their single purchase.

I'm waiting on paperwork for 2 guns myself. This is the sort of thing that draws attention to our cause a 7 day wait now takes 100 days and the state wants to add more steps to a process they currently cannot handle.

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