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Old February 3rd, 2014, 09:50 AM #1
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"They're not going to take your guns"

I'm annoyed. More and more I see this meme creeping up that's pretty obviously designed to discredit gun owners and pro-2A as paranoid morons. It goes something like this:

"Relax, they're not going to take your guns away." Sometimes it's accompanied by, "We just want you to use them responsibly," or the like.

Does anyone have any idea where this came from? I remember it popping up from time to time WHILE Feinstein was pushing the federal gun bans, and I'm seeing it more and more now.

Is this an anti-gun group, the Democratic party rhetoric (which I ignore mostly, along with most Republican party rhetoric ), or just a positive feedback loop within the uninformed sheep living in caves (with internet access, I guess).

Why are people lying and pretending so publicly and obviously? None of this is meant to be rhetorical. Does anyone know the source?
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Some of it is naive people, some of it is disinformation intentionally spread.

Fortunately, in the last two years, Democrats have proposed confiscation bills which ruin their argument.
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Some of it is naive people, some of it is disinformation intentionally spread.

Fortunately, in the last two years, Democrats have proposed confiscation bills which ruin their argument.

Most of it is simply that people can't accept the current political climate. They refuse to believe that our leaders violate laws and the Constitution on a daily basis. But most importantly, they don't know/understand the Constitution to begin with.
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Most of it is simply that people can't accept the current political climate. They refuse to believe that our leaders violate laws and the Constitution on a daily basis. But most importantly, they don't know/understand the Constitution to begin with.
True. For a long time, pro gun people have called wolf on every single legislation.

But now, we have some real evidence.
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How can you segway the conversation from "We're not going to take you guns" equals "We're not going to let you buy any new guns" which is in fact a "taking."
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How can you segway the conversation from "We're not going to take you guns" equals "We're not going to let you buy any new guns" which is in fact a "taking."

Bingo. That's exactly what happened in England.

And CA is trying the same thing. How many pistol companies have already said they are discontinuing business with residents of the state.
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The best part is when they have the audacity to say they believe in the second amendment while they blatantly are violating it by having no idea what the heck "infringe" actually means.
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How can you segway the conversation from "We're not going to take you guns" equals "We're not going to let you buy any new guns" which is in fact a "taking."
If you like your health insurance you can keep your... oh..

Tell them you are not that stupid and wish them well with the death panels....
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"Relax, they're not going to take your guns away." Sometimes it's accompanied by, "We just want you to use them responsibly," or the like.




Well, for one thing, they are talking about gun registration, which would not affect criminals, because they don't register guns. When they want responsibility, they want "permission from the government" as in licenses and registration. I am a legal US born citizen, with the right to bear arms, and presumed innocence (I know, an unusual concept). So, I have not shot any one, committed crimes. Why should I be compelled to register my guns I don't want or need the govt to know about anyways? And if we don't register or get licensed and jump thru hoops for them, THEN will they try to take them away. Look what is happening in NY. NYPD is actively sending out notices to gun owners requiring them to be sold, altered by a gunsmith, or SURRENDERED to law enforcement. This is the kinda of "warm and fuzzy" stuff stupid feel good laws like the SAFE Act NY did. They are looking to confiscate. I would guess 90% or MORE of gun crimes are committed by criminals who should be in jail already, and are illegally using stolen or otherwise illegal handguns. Even though EBRs make the news often and scare soccer moms into action, their use is relatively rare. I worry more about a car wreck than getting shot by a kid with an AR15. Connecticut has started gun registration, which I think is just a prelude to collection. It's only a matter of time before it happens here, or nationally. We need to fight back BEFORE it gets to the point of no return. Because MILLIONS of gun owners ARE responsible.
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