Is this Heavy Barrel FN-15 5.56 legal $789

j.smooth4 · Mar 6, 2018

danb said:
It is described as a heavy barrel. So one would think its GTG. However the description does not match the manufacturers website in some details like the magazine and handguard.

I wish they had that one for 800 $

To be honest I think these are an old model that is being cleared out for new model Hbars from FN with the sexy new handguards . It's not on FN website this specific model.

Most websites have listed it as sold out and theres no longer a link on Buds.

danb · Mar 6, 2018

j.smooth4 said:
I wish they had that one for 800 $

To be honest I think these are an old model that is being cleared out for new model Hbars from FN with the sexy new handguards . It's not on FN website this specific model.

Most websites have listed it as sold out and theres no longer a link on Buds.

The handguard looks like a standard (but sexy) $125 Midwest Industries handguard. I have it on another rifle. Actually 1 rifle and 1 pistol. In fact, when I look at FN website, I swear I see the Midwest logo on the handguard.

800+$125 is still less than $1100, or even $1400.

ETA FN website says:

Midwest industry rail 12” with M-LOK™

indeed. and you can find them here for $125-200 https://www.midwestindustriesinc.com/category-s/342.htm

educated guess, its this one, $180: https://www.midwestindustriesinc.com/product-p/mi-g3m12-blk.htm

Stevie Boy · Mar 6, 2018

danb said:
The handguard looks like a standard (but sexy) $125 Midwest Industries handguard. I have it on another rifle. Actually 1 rifle and 1 pistol. In fact, when I look at FN website, I swear I see the Midwest logo on the handguard.

800+$125 is still less than $1100, or even $1400.

ETA FN website says:

indeed. and you can find them here for $125-200 https://www.midwestindustriesinc.com/category-s/342.htm

educated guess, its this one, $180: https://www.midwestindustriesinc.com/product-p/mi-g3m12-blk.htm

He'd have to deal with the front sight too. Not a lot of money if he chooses to modify it, but something to deal with nonetheless.

danb · Mar 6, 2018

Stevie Boy said:
He'd have to deal with the front sight too. Not a lot of money if he chooses to modify it, but something to deal with nonetheless.

true.

Bountied · Mar 7, 2018

squaregrouper said:
Please read the thread's title.

I did but the link for the rifle on the FN website listed it as $1400. Not sure if the OP had the right rifle since the one in the picture was not MD compliant.

danb · Mar 7, 2018

Bountied said:
I did but the link for the rifle on the FN website listed it as $1400. Not sure if the OP had the right rifle since the one in the picture was not MD compliant.

The one in the original link is $800, and listed as heavy barrel, so its maryland compliant. Its probably an older version of the FN 15 HBAR.

danb · Mar 7, 2018

Here is the correct FNH model (I googled the MPN 36001):

https://fnamerica.com/products/riflescarbines-semi-auto/fn-15-carbine/

Heavy Barrel, Button-broached, chrome-lined

Definitely an older model.

Bountied · Mar 7, 2018

danb said:
Here is the correct FNH model (I googled the MPN 36001):

https://fnamerica.com/products/riflescarbines-semi-auto/fn-15-carbine/

Definitely an older model.

Yeah that one matches the MSRP on the Eurooptics website.

Alphabrew · Mar 7, 2018

3paul10 said:
Nope, picture shows the M4 cut in the barrel. Not MD compliant.

That don’t mean chit, need to see under the handguard. Take the Colt 6920 SOCOM as a md legal example of an HBAR with M4 cut

j.smooth4 · Mar 7, 2018

danb said:
Here is the correct FNH model (I googled the MPN 36001):

https://fnamerica.com/products/riflescarbines-semi-auto/fn-15-carbine/

Definitely an older model.

Thank you their website has no search bar so I couldn't find it. I guess since the Manufacturer advertises it as hbar its gtg

ericoak · Mar 7, 2018

I just bought two, if you price out the parts you get plus the rebate light, it's a great deal.

Larre · Mar 7, 2018

Alphabrew said:
That don’t mean chit, need to see under the handguard. Take the Colt 6920 SOCOM as a md legal example of an HBAR with M4 cut

That’s what I thought, too... but if you check the MSP web site, it looks like somebody asked for a review and on 2/28/2018 the MSP decided that even though the Colt LE6920 SOCOM is (presumably) an HBAR, it’s now banned as a copy... unless I’m somehow reading that wrong.

http://mdsp.maryland.gov/Organization/Pages/CriminalInvestigationBureau/LicensingDivision/Firearms/

Yet, even though the FN-15 1776 model is *not* advertised as an HBAR:

https://fnamerica.com/products/discontinued-products/fn-15-1776/

...and the FN-15 Carbine is, the same MSP website indicates that the 1776 is *not* banned.

So now... I don’t know what to think about this HBAR business. Is there some other reason why the Colt LE6920 SOCOM would be banned? Is it possible that there is a non-HBAR version of the LE6920 SOCOM?

danb · Mar 7, 2018

Larre said:
That’s what I thought, too... but if you check the MSP web site, it looks like somebody asked for a review and on 2/28/2018 the MSP decided that even though the Colt LE6920 SOCOM is (presumably) an HBAR, it’s now banned as a copy... unless I’m somehow reading that wrong.

http://mdsp.maryland.gov/Organization/Pages/CriminalInvestigationBureau/LicensingDivision/Firearms/

Yet, even though the FN-15 1776 model is *not* advertised as an HBAR:

https://fnamerica.com/products/discontinued-products/fn-15-1776/

...and the FN-15 Carbine is, the same MSP website indicates that the 1776 is *not* banned.

So now... I don’t know what to think about this HBAR business. Is there some other reason why the Colt LE6920 SOCOM would be banned? Is it possible that there is a non-HBAR version of the LE6920 SOCOM?

Colt LE6920 is not hbar. SOCOM profile barrel is not HBAR.

the colt 6721 is the hbar model I think.

Larre · Mar 8, 2018

I know that there has been about a million discussions of this HBAR business in the past 5 years, so I do to want to start yet another diacussion on that. I guess the bottom line is that if this is advertised as a heavy barrel by the manufacturer, it must be OK. I guess I’m getting the LE6920 SOCOM and the M4A1 SOCOM barrel configurations confused. I’m pretty sure at this point that the M4A1 SOCOM is HBAR. I think. <shrug>

danb · Mar 8, 2018

I think that the Colt M4A1 SOCOM is the same rifle as LE6920 SOCOM. LE6920 is the model number.

Not HBAR.

Alphabrew · Mar 8, 2018

Larre said:
That’s what I thought, too... but if you check the MSP web site, it looks like somebody asked for a review and on 2/28/2018 the MSP decided that even though the Colt LE6920 SOCOM is (presumably) an HBAR, it’s now banned as a copy... unless I’m somehow reading that wrong.

http://mdsp.maryland.gov/Organization/Pages/CriminalInvestigationBureau/LicensingDivision/Firearms/

Yet, even though the FN-15 1776 model is *not* advertised as an HBAR:

https://fnamerica.com/products/discontinued-products/fn-15-1776/

...and the FN-15 Carbine is, the same MSP website indicates that the 1776 is *not* banned.

So now... I don’t know what to think about this HBAR business. Is there some other reason why the Colt LE6920 SOCOM would be banned? Is it possible that there is a non-HBAR version of the LE6920 SOCOM?

Damn, that sucks

ericoak · Mar 8, 2018

MSP and MSP websites are both wrong in many instances. The idea that stampings or advertisement is what determines an HBAR is retarded.

ericoak · Mar 10, 2018

I just picked up my two rifles, and I hope no one in MD ordered them because they are not heavy profile.

danb · Mar 10, 2018

A heavy barrel in maryland needs to be at least 1.75 oz per inch (28 oz for a 16" barrel) and .75 in at the gas block.

lee2 · Mar 10, 2018

danb said:
A heavy barrel in maryland needs to be at least 1.75 oz per inch (28 oz for a 16" barrel) and .75 in at the gas block.

there is no physical description of what a heavy barrel is in md other that being marked hbar or being described as an hbar by the manufacturer.

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