Joe Biden's Plan to End Gun Violence

SkiPatrolDude said:

Just going to leave this here.

A few day's ago Biden rolled out his "Plan to End Gun Violence". Click past the donation page.

As the "presumtive nominee", I feel this might be worth it's own thread.

I used search feature and am surprised a thread hasn't been made yet. If it's a dupe or is already being discussed in another thread, moderators - feel free to delete.

https://joebiden.com/gunsafety/

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Qbeam said:

Sorry, had to stop about halfway. Started hearing the Charlie Brown teacher's voice.....
The usual BS, besides, he's is going to put Beto in charge.
Q

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Hold gun manufacturers accountable
(meaning, allow manufacturers to be financially destroyed for the criminal mis-use of their products ... but not cars or kitchen knives or gasoline, just guns)

Get weapons of war off our streets
(meaning, semi-auto guns and standard capacity clipazines)

Ban the manufacture and sale of assault weapons and high-capacity magazines
(meaning, the usual)

Regulate possession of existing assault weapons under the National Firearms Act
(presto, you now owe a $200 tax stamp on your existing guns!)

Buy back the assault weapons and high-capacity magazines already in our communities
(though the government didn't sell them to you, they'll use your own tax money to buy them for less than they're worth)

Reduce stockpiling of weapons
(one a month, buddy! that way you can't stockpile more than 12 a year, which is fine and will prevent murders or something)

Keep guns out of dangerous hands
(by running the background checks we already have...)

Require background checks for all gun sales
(1 in 5 are transferred without a background check! meaning, he wants background checks when criminals steal and sell guns - that'll work)

Close other loopholes in the federal background check system.
(the "boyfriend loophole" ... uh, straw purchases are already illegal)

Reinstate the Obama-Biden policy to keep guns out of the hands of certain people unable to manage their affairs for mental reasons
(referring to taking away grandpa's duck gun if anyone helps him file his taxes)

Close the "hate crime," "Charleston" and "fugitive" loopholes
(so, mind reading, government-involved slowness, and poor state record keeping loopholes)

End the online sale of firearms and ammunitions, kits, and gun parts.
(and then by making it miserably expensive and impossible to run a local gun store, murder will no longer be possible)

Incentivize state "extreme risk" laws.
(because due process is so old fashioned)

Give states incentives to set up gun licensing programs.
(because the constitution's protection of the right to self defense is just plain annoying to Mr. Biden)

Adequately fund the background check system.
(how about adequately prosecuting the hundreds of thousands who commit a crime by lying on their 4473s and are already denied a purchase?)

Put America on the path to ensuring that 100% of firearms sold in America are smart guns.
(don't get me started on this insanity)

TACKLE URBAN GUN VIOLENCE WITH TARGETED, EVIDENCE-BASED COMMUNITY INTERVENTIONS
(he said "evidence based" so it must be a good idea!)

Dedicate the brightest scientific minds to solving the gun violence public health epidemic.
(turn gun policy over to the CDC so we can use that shiny new pandemic total power thing to take your guns away)

Prohibit the use of federal funds to arm or train educators to discharge firearms.
(because teachers shouldn't be "required" to shoot guns ... which nobody is saying, President Straw Man Fighter)

Address the epidemic of suicides by firearms.
(other suicides may continue as planned)

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Occam said:

For those that don't want to reward Biden with a click on his web site, here's my distilled-down summary of his agenda items in this area:

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mangleu said:

Well that'll cripple a lot of businesses.

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Sealion said:

Attaching the CDC report on deaths in 2017. Joe's campaign references 40,000 firearm injuries annually. Per the report, ~14k firearm homicides, ~25k suicide by firearm.

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Leading causes of death The 15 leading causes of death in 2017 accounted for 80% of all deaths in the United States (Table B).

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Sealion said:

Attaching the CDC report on deaths in 2017. Joe's campaign references 40,000 firearm injuries annually. Per the report, ~14k firearm homicides, ~25k suicide by firearm.

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pcfixer said:

What the dems don't say. Even IF the progressive's ban every firearm the American public has at home, There is not a possible avenue to confiscate all firearms. Just Will Not Happen!
Still will not reduce the homicide or suicide rates.

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rascal said:

they know that about 60% is suicide and that all other firearms death rates (homicide and accidental) have plummeted in the last generation.

So including suicide is really important to gun ban advocates. Because without suicides, the really concerning number, harm to others, has been falling and falling.


And guns do not cause any suicide. Even sharply reducing firearms access doesn't change overall suicide, it just moves around how much is done yb different methods of suicide in a "substitution effect."

For example the number of individuals living in homes with firearms, ie with access to firearms, nearly halved in the space of a year in Australia in the 1990's, and overall self cased death did not drop at all. Only methods of self cased death changed.

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davsco said:

hopefully everyone learned from virginia what happens when we don't get out and vote. there is no doubt that when dems are in control, they will go after our firearms.

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BlueHeeler said:

How about enforcing the current laws???.

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