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Look at the cards for $99, I took this yesterday
Look at the cards for $99, I took this yesterday
Let's Discuss Burner Phones
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- Feb 4, 2013
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Huh???
A LOT of countries I can buy a phone and sim card with cash, from a machine in the airport.
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Digital is not enough. Before GSM there were the TDMA and CDMA digital networks. Most carriers switched to GSM in the early 2000s. Except Verizon, they stayed CDMA for voice for a LONG time.
Every flip phone I had was GSM. And even before I had a flip phone (they were out but I did not have one) I had a couple of GSM phones.
Recharging defeats the concept of disposable. Burner phones are just that, use and toss.
Until a year or so ago I used ATT's prepaid daily plan for an effort. $2 a day unlimited only on the day used. Supposedly the plan was only for basic phones, but you could active your SIM card as a basic phone in a smart phone and then change the plan. You could use data at $1 / 100 MB for 24 hours, if I recall correctly. I bought $100 prepaid cards; they were good for a year once added to the balance. Adding another $100 card just before the year was up extended the balance for another year.
At one point I had a several hundred dollar balance. It was always ready to be turned on, no further activation required. Just bought enough $100 cards for the number of years of the project.
I did a quick search and see talk of it but don't see it on ATT's paygoline page. Even when I used it, it was hard to find any mention of it.
I've borrowed books via my local library from all over the US using inter-library loan programs.
And a lot of countries required one's passport or national ID card to buy a SIM card.
In one country an enterprising store had the "normal" SIM cards that required registration with an ID. They also had "preregistered" cards offsite but close by in the names of deceased folk.
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Look at the cards for $99, I took this yesterday
Thank You. Others mentioned Tracphone but didn’t elaborate on the various plans. It looks like they have 3 different 1 year prepaid plans.
$199 for Unlimited Talk/Text +12gb data
$99 for 400 minutes talk. You can add 1000 text for $5 and 1gb data for $10. So $115 per year is good, but I assume you would need to pay with a CC to add the extra $15 in service.
I did discover something interesting. They sell a prepaid 1 year prepaid 2gb data only card for $99. I’m not sure if they are available in stores like Walgreens. These are intended to be used in hotspots or vehicles.
Are you saying that after activation, you could simply buy additional $100 cards at stores for cash and add them to the initial activated card? If so then you could theoretically purchase say 5 prepaid $100 cards up front and have service for 5 years. That sounds like what I’m trying to do.
Yes, I bought physical $100 cards with a 365 day expiration. You activate the phone with one card. Just before expiration a year later, you would add a new card that you previously bought so that any unused balance carries over. E.g., on day 364 or 365 your balance is $75, you add the card. Your balance is now $175. If you wait until day 365 or 366 then you would lose the $75.
But as someone already mentioned, if it's a true burner phone, on first use you destroy it so everything I've written would be irrelevant.
I did a quick search but don't see where to buy physical cards now. Everything I see is via email. But I guess you could pay with a (say) Visa card you bought with cash and have the PINs sent to a throwaway email address that you access from a place that rents device usage by the minute, e.g. a UPS store.
I attached an image from: https://www.walmart.com/ip/AT-T-Prepaid-100-e-Pin-Top-Up-Email-Delivery/15443333
That leaves the task of finding the per-use basic phone plan that I previously described. It is well hidden if it still exists. It seems ATT wants you on a monthly plan.
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FWIW, I recently talked with att about current phone plans and they could find no info on prepaid phones. Said to go to store or call a different department.
My father only uses voice so we thought a permanent burner? would be cheaper, loves his flip phone.
My father only uses voice so we thought a permanent burner? would be cheaper, loves his flip phone.
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Honestly, the easiest would be a source an "Obama phone" from when they were giving them out.
The registration on them was iffy at best. It has been several years since I saw them being handed out on the streets, so I suspect the tech. in the phones are dead.
Still a lot to worry about with being tracked. But the buying and monthly billing was handled by .gov.
The registration on them was iffy at best. It has been several years since I saw them being handed out on the streets, so I suspect the tech. in the phones are dead.
Still a lot to worry about with being tracked. But the buying and monthly billing was handled by .gov.
My Navy SEAL friend is getting ready to go all Jason Bourne in Europe for some time, I'd ask him but I am sure his phones are going to be "issued".
I know that in the DC area ATT currently has monthly prepaid unlimited minute and a few GB smart phone plans. A friend has one for $25-30 per month. They have no concern about privacy.and pay via monthly credit card or ACH debit to save $5 / month.
If your father needs help, then please let me know. My friend lives in Wheaton and can give me details. But now we're not talking about burner phones, right?
Right. For some reason I'm interested in this thread but I still don't thoroughly understand the OP's threat that we're protecting against. And I think the terminology that I understand as "burner phone" is inconsistent with the OP's objective. Any clarification would help.
Thanks, and yes non burner.
Not to stray too far from the topic, it is cheaper for us to have 4 phones on AT$T’s plan than our 3 , so we’ll have one sitting in a drawer to save money. He’ll have to live with that terrible interweb button.
The only threat I’m concerned about is the ability to make a call from an anonymous number should the need arise in the future. I agree that I might have been unclear on the term “Burner Phone”. I use that term to mean 100% disposal and not linked to my personal identity in any way.
Despite my having mentioned ATT, I have no interest in them. I previously used them as described and can ask my friend about their current plan. One thing I've noticed is that their coverage is spotty in the suburban DC area and other non strictly metropolitan US areas. For example, when my friend visits me in outer suburban MD, they have to go up a hill on my property to make a call.
Is there anything you'd like me to ask about?
Sorry. I'm still not clear. Once you make that first call, then you're tracked. And the call recipient is tracked. Is that OK in your scenario? If not, you need multiple devices, multiple SIM cards and multiple plan PINs for each call.
I think the bigger question is anonymous from who?
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