PDR technique instead of drilling for 10 rnd mag

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  • Blaster229

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    Why were you riding the slide lock?

    Just where it is on the pistol and my thumb.

    And contrary to belief, you don't keep a perfect grip while you are moving and shooting stuff.
    Another reason why it is very important to shoot using both hands when it is physically possible.

    I always cringe when I watch these bodycam videos of cops in shootings. 1 hand aiming on a suspect and the other grabbing for that damned radio.

    Hit your single 13 button and be done with it.
     

    John from MD

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    Just where it is on the pistol and my thumb.

    And contrary to belief, you don't keep a perfect grip while you are moving and shooting stuff.
    Another reason why it is very important to shoot using both hands when it is physically possible.

    I always cringe when I watch these bodycam videos of cops in shootings. 1 hand aiming on a suspect and the other grabbing for that damned radio.

    Hit your single 13 button and be done with it.

    Or worse, they are touching off rounds with one hand. :crazy:
     

    Pinecone

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    1) If you just heat where the dimple it, you will likely warp the mag.

    2) If you heat it red hot, you are heat treating the mag and it may not continue to function properly for long. If you temper it, you might make it brittle and it will crack. Anneal it, and you will make the metal softer so it dents (hmm, like a dimple) or bends.

    Willy nilly heating metal items is NOT a good idea.
     

    DaemonAssassin

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    1) If you just heat where the dimple it, you will likely warp the mag.

    2) If you heat it red hot, you are heat treating the mag and it may not continue to function properly for long. If you temper it, you might make it brittle and it will crack. Anneal it, and you will make the metal softer so it dents (hmm, like a dimple) or bends.

    Willy nilly heating metal items is NOT a good idea.

    And you missed the point I was making. But then again always correcting people without seeing the point they were making it kind of a dick move.
     

    rehtlaw

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    I had good luck doing AK mags that had large dimples in the sides. Find a piece of wood that fits inside then work a piece of like 1 by 1/8 steel or what ever size you need inside {just take up the space}. It should bow it outwards a bit then use a hammer to tap it where the dimple is. I did a bunch this way may not look real pretty but they would function fine. Also did some p38 mags the same way.
     

    Pinecone

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    And you missed the point I was making. But then again always correcting people without seeing the point they were making it kind of a dick move.

    a) Did I respond to one of your posts? No

    b) Did I contradict something you said? I checked, and I don't see that I did.

    c) Was I even talking to you directly? NO

    I was just making a point that one should not just go around heating metal things to red hot and thinking they are the same as when you started.
     

    Blaster229

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    1) If you just heat where the dimple it, you will likely warp the mag.

    2) If you heat it red hot, you are heat treating the mag and it may not continue to function properly for long. If you temper it, you might make it brittle and it will crack. Anneal it, and you will make the metal softer so it dents (hmm, like a dimple) or bends.

    Willy nilly heating metal items is NOT a good idea.

    How should it be done?
     

    DaemonAssassin

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    Yea man. You need to hit it with MAP gas till it turns red, then you hit it with a mallet. You have to hit it hard enough that you know you made good contact, but not hard enough you made turn into a banana.

    Afterwards, if you need to dispose off it, call this number, 410-653-4500 and give them your name and address. They will be over shortly to pick up the damaged mag for destruction.



    1) If you just heat where the dimple it, you will likely warp the mag.

    2) If you heat it red hot, you are heat treating the mag and it may not continue to function properly for long. If you temper it, you might make it brittle and it will crack. Anneal it, and you will make the metal softer so it dents (hmm, like a dimple) or bends.

    Willy nilly heating metal items is NOT a good idea.



    a) Did I respond to one of your posts? No

    b) Did I contradict something you said? I checked, and I don't see that I did.

    c) Was I even talking to you directly? NO

    I was just making a point that one should not just go around heating metal things to red hot and thinking they are the same as when you started.

    Let's do a refresher, shall we?

    A) I said to heat it to red hot.

    B) You didn't have to "quote" one of my posts to attempt to refute something I did post. Quite passive-aggressive to be honest.

    C) You do this quite a bit, then feign innocence.

    D) You saw the point I was making with my first post, because of one key piece I made sure was in there.

    E) You stepped in after everything had already been settled.
     

    outrider58

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    I'm just not getting it. We're not prohibited from going elsewhere to buy mags. WTF?
    That's the long way around the barn...
     

    Doco Overboard

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    If it's steel, just solder a copper disk to it then again a brazing rod to the disk. (make a penny)
    Open your vice up and put the brazing rod perpendicular to the jaws. Screw the vise inward to support the mag sides dependent on the damaged areas size.
    Grab the brazing rod with a pair of vice grips and lever off the side of the vise jaws.
    Because the metal has been sprung, it will have grown in area and be stretched. You can spot quench with a neutral torch flame to shrink it around the area that needed attention in a couple small spots.

    OR...... you can dolly the exterior with a pecking hammer to shrink the metal where the dent was, file flat and oxpho blue.
    A cheap, very small ball peen hammer with slots cut across it's face with a hack saw, then peened across the area will do the same thing.

    As the metal is raised and becomes ductile from being pecked, it will tighten it up and shrink it.
    Solder as many brazing rods and pennies to what you want to flatten something out to, for where the inside is hard to get access by.

    If it's cheap just replace it. But not everything you can find on Amazon or Midway inter-webs.

    Happy metal-smithing.
     

    Pinecone

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    Let's do a refresher, shall we?

    A) I said to heat it to red hot.

    B) You didn't have to "quote" one of my posts to attempt to refute something I did post. Quite passive-aggressive to be honest.

    C) You do this quite a bit, then feign innocence.

    D) You saw the point I was making with my first post, because of one key piece I made sure was in there.

    E) You stepped in after everything had already been settled.

    So you are saying that it is OK to heat a metal part with unknow heat treating to red hot?

    OK.

    I disagree.
     

    Pinecone

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    How should it be done?

    Drilling is safer.

    You don't potentially change the heat treatment of the metal.

    For fun, heat a mag spring red hot and see how it works.

    No, that is not a mag body, but it illustrates what changing the heat treatment can do.
     
    Jul 1, 2012
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    P38 mags only hold 8 rounds anyway.

    Were these New York mags, blocked at 7 rounds?

    My guess is his P.38 mags were damaged / dented based on the context.
    I've got more than a few with a "dimple" or two, usually doesn't affect follower travel but looks less than stellar.
     

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