Ammo Jon
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Give me a week and they’d all be in the east bank.
The Givati Club: Local Jewish Gun Club
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Give me a week and they’d all be in the east bank.
Combloc
Stop Negassing me!!!!!
Lots of buzz words there. Attacking someone who points out a fact (there IS a discriminatory policy in place) is at the core of what it means these days to be a "liberal democrat". I wonder how people would react if there was a gun club that had a similar whites only policy with regard to voting in order to maintain its white identity or a Christian only policy to maintain its Christian identity or even a Muslim only policy to maintain its Muslim identity. It's your club to do with as you will but the fact is, your club has a blatant discriminatory policy.
Why do you require my NRA # to join??
Combloc
Stop Negassing me!!!!!
And what does this mean??
"All official meetups will be on days where there is no shabbos or yom tov and dietary laws are STRICTLY enforced for the benefit of our members."
Are you telling me I can't eat what I want when I come to the club on certain days?? Why do I have to modify my diet and/or observe your religious customs to be at a gun club?? If I'm a non-Jewish member, how does that "benefit" me? Rather, it seems to limit me.
"All official meetups will be on days where there is no shabbos or yom tov and dietary laws are STRICTLY enforced for the benefit of our members."
Are you telling me I can't eat what I want when I come to the club on certain days?? Why do I have to modify my diet and/or observe your religious customs to be at a gun club?? If I'm a non-Jewish member, how does that "benefit" me? Rather, it seems to limit me.
clandestine
AR-15 Savant
Freedom is the ability for them to make whatever rules they want for their club.
Their rules would disqualify me, bit I take no offense at all.
Their rules would disqualify me, bit I take no offense at all.
Robert2888
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Except white Europeans do not have that freedom in Amurrica
The forum never ceases to amaze me , and not always in a good way . To have to prove that you are Pro-Jewish is silly just as silly you have to prove you are pro-gentile .
This conversation is weird at face value , ohhh by the way i love all people until they screw me over .
This conversation is weird at face value , ohhh by the way i love all people until they screw me over .
The thing wrong with America today is you can not have groups for certain folks , Boy Scouts is just one very positive group that was ruined by the thought to include everyone .
Ammo Jon
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There are members that observe the Jewish Sabbath as well as dietary laws. Though I eat “secular” I understand that out of respect to other members I will not bring a bbq bacon cheeseburger with me to the various meetings and we will not have range events on Friday nights. There are plenty of AGC groups to join so it’s not as if you’re forced to join Givati.
I can not speak for the Givati Rifle and Pistol Club, but I think it's common practice for clubs at AGC to have an active NRA membership.
Wait, is this a Jewish Club or a TSA club?
My gun club you need a NRA membership before you can be sponsored in . They do not take in anyone until you have been vetted & sponsored by another member .
On top of the above, the club i belong also includes criminal back ground checks. Is that what you mean by vetted?
If closer, I would attend as well.
Discriminating is only the ability to know a difference, not the same as using the difference with intent to slight someone. The club wishes to maintain its identity, not slight someone.
Respect for others' differing customs is being considerate. They are honest about looking for people who have this quality.
The defensive, bordering on offensive, accusation of anti-Semitism was incorrect for most of the MDS'ers. I get that it was a return volley, but broadly, a false accusation.
All said, I wish the club well, and happy it exists.
Discriminating is only the ability to know a difference, not the same as using the difference with intent to slight someone. The club wishes to maintain its identity, not slight someone.
Respect for others' differing customs is being considerate. They are honest about looking for people who have this quality.
The defensive, bordering on offensive, accusation of anti-Semitism was incorrect for most of the MDS'ers. I get that it was a return volley, but broadly, a false accusation.
All said, I wish the club well, and happy it exists.
That's what I'm thinking.
I woke up with a dreadful feeling of Gentile Guilt, didn't know why...... and then I fired up my computer...
I have no proof of that , but what i meant is new persons need to meet with a range officer and get a badge (card) endorsement to qualify on the range .
They stay with you to observe you on range and safe practices on firearm/rifles .
If i wanted to shoot rifles on the long range that is a separate endorsement .But character & criminal is certainly a concern .
I also ask if i could CC at site and it was a yes , as long as i don't draw fire from holster .
KevinK
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- Feb 19, 2013
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I do not know what that is.
Just saying you don't have to be Jewish to have the passport, vote or be a member of the Knesset. There have been Arabs in the Knesset since 1949. Due to Israel's immigration policy, likely no worry about Jews ever in the minority. They also do not have the USA stupid system of citizen by birth w/o conditions.
I think what some may be disturbed with, replace Jewish Gun club with "[x] Gun club" , and only [x] vote. I don't think that would get far with many choices for the [x]. If all things were equal, it shouldn't be looked at wrong at all if people are fine with this guns clubs rules.
Ammo Jon
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The East Bank refers to the other side of the Jordan river.
The Palestinians (specifically Muslim although there are Christians as well) with Israeli citizenship are having more children than their Israeli (Jewish) counterparts so the identity of the country is definitely at risk.
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