At What Point Is China Held Responsible?

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  • JohnnyE

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    When the Clinton's and the Dems. that sold our country to the highest bidder are held accountable , all should be jailed or held for treason .

    It's far more than just them, it's business in general. Manufacturing, customers and trade matter more today than principle or high-minded ideals like liberty.

    Here are the last 14 words of the Declaration of Independence, just before the signatures.

    .".. we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor."

    ^^^This doesn't matter any more, making money does.
     

    Jim12

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    China is also behind sowing the seeds of social breakdown. It’s something they’ve picked at for years knowing that it (racism) is our Achilles heel.

    Aw, c'mon, man! They're not bad folks! You're just jealous of Eric Swalwell!!
     

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    Aw, c'mon, man! They're not bad folks! You're just jealous of Eric Swalwell!!
    This investigation kind of disappeared, didn't it? Even if there was evidence of her getting down with a number of lower level politicians. He had to have been compromised.
     

    Jim12

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    This investigation kind of disappeared, didn't it? Even if there was evidence of her getting down with a number of lower level politicians. He had to have been compromised.

    Can't help but wonder what role she and the CCP played in his rising political career and placement on the House Intelligence Committee alongside fellow traveler Adam Schiff, Representative of (literally) CCP-influenced and CCP-connected Hollywood.

    Not only does something not smell right, but you'd have to be ignoring reality to not be curious and suspicious as to how all of that went down.
     

    AlBeight

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    Just for the sake of discussion, COVID wasn’t born and released in the lab but it happened exactly as the “tainted bat/wet market” lie was told. Shouldn’t they still be held responsible for that? Their version of local health department inspectors or FDA types couldn’t mitigate that before it spread to kill humans world-wide? In this country, we’re still held liable for our “accidents”, I’m wondering if there is some kind of national entity that can impose penalties for this? At the least, thru some sort of integrity or self-accountability the CCP should probably offer some sort of contrition and/or financial compensation to the rest of the world. They were caught red-handed covering it up after all, and should’ve immediately closed down all egress from China to outside countries. I agree with the OP, something should be done to China to make them accountable for whatever their part was in all of this.
     

    Uncle Duke

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    Hold China accountable? In this a country that increasingly gives criminals a free pass? With schools that teach kids to hate who they are, and where they were born? With a news media and a government that tell you your eyes lie, and that truth is whatever they tell you it is? With a focus on pressing issues such as Free Britney, who's grabbing JLo's bum this week, the saga of Harry and Meghan Markle, and redefining what bathroom to use?

    You're kidding, right? They're laughing out loud.
     

    randomuser

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    Just for the sake of discussion, COVID wasn’t born and released in the lab but it happened exactly as the “tainted bat/wet market” lie was told. Shouldn’t they still be held responsible for that? Their version of local health department inspectors or FDA types couldn’t mitigate that before it spread to kill humans world-wide? In this country, we’re still held liable for our “accidents”, I’m wondering if there is some kind of national entity that can impose penalties for this? At the least, thru some sort of integrity or self-accountability the CCP should probably offer some sort of contrition and/or financial compensation to the rest of the world. They were caught red-handed covering it up after all, and should’ve immediately closed down all egress from China to outside countries. I agree with the OP, something should be done to China to make them accountable for whatever their part was in all of this.

    Didn't the US have tax dollars paid to that lab? Wasn't it for gain of function research?
     

    AlBeight

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    Hold China accountable? In this a country that increasingly gives criminals a free pass? With schools that teach kids to hate who they are, and where they were born? With a news media and a government that tell you your eyes lie, and that truth is whatever they tell you it is? With a focus on pressing issues such as Free Britney, who's grabbing JLo's bum this week, the saga of Harry and Meghan Markle, and redefining what bathroom to use?

    You're kidding, right? They're laughing out loud.
    Honestly, I couldn’t even keep a straight face as I typed my response. However, with the entire World being affected by it, I’m hoping somebody that isn’t corrupted or afraid of China at least raises a stink about it. For instance, I doubt Israel is beholden to China, they don’t take shit off too many countries.

    If there was ever a World War 3, with damn near every country on the planet against China, this would be a good enough reason for it. China tried to end the Earth to its own benefit. I think this was only the test run, when they really go for it there will be nothing the world can do.
     

    AlBeight

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    Didn't the US have tax dollars paid to that lab? Wasn't it for gain of function research?
    I think many countries paid that lab, and Fauci won’t admit it was for gain of research (a term I’ve heard a thousand times in the last week and have no clue what it is). The whole thing is definitely not on the up and up.
     

    GutPile

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    Ccp does what it wants to do. I seriously doubt they were following faucci’s command for what amounts to spare change you find under the couch.
     
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    Sylvester The Cat

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    Setting conspiracy theories aside and the finer details, Covid-19 originated in Wuhan China. A laboratory is there engineering/cultivating viruses.

    The devastation this had on the world healthwise and economically is in epic proportions. Lay blame where it needs to be. This couldn't be more obvious and clearly a warning shot. This is a bio-weapon....THAT HAS BEEN USED!

    What are we wating for? A more developed bio-weapon that brings even more death and devistation to all shores?

    Why is this conversation not being had? We are talking about containment and control. Let's discuss blame, accountability, and reckoning.
     

    pleasant1911

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    China is one or two steps from collapse. US economy is mostly service. That means skilled workers. China is factory and non skilled workers. If you ask any main land Chinese, they ll tell you how hard it is to make a living. The world knows if the US economy crashes, so will rest of the world. Someone on welfare in the USA gets more money than 70-80% of the world’s population
     

    ToolAA

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    China is one or two steps from collapse. US economy is mostly service. That means skilled workers. China is factory and non skilled workers. If you ask any main land Chinese, they ll tell you how hard it is to make a living. The world knows if the US economy crashes, so will rest of the world. Someone on welfare in the USA gets more money than 70-80% of the world’s population


    There is a lot going on in your comment some parts more accurate than others. China is a big country that has about 300M people who live at the same standard of living as the entire U.S. However by Chinese standards most of them would be considered extremely wealthy. Another 550M have a wealth between $10K-40K. They would be considered middle class in China and have similar levels of technical employment as middle class Americans. These are not Unskilled workers by any means. Most would be repair people, middle level supervisors, and service sector employees in larger metro areas. Then there are about 300M that fall into the low skilled arena who are living on $10 or less per day. By world standards this is not considered extreme poverty. Someone in China living in a more rural area is not in total destitute. They probably have a roof over their heads, maybe a bike and access to enough food and clean water to avoid serious illnesses. The last 50M are living on less than $1 per day and may not even have more than a single change of clothes or pair of shoes.

    Regarding world share of wealth I think the US claims about 28% down from 39% in 2000. China has about 19% up from 3% in 2000. The rest of the world claims 53%. So we are the largest nation in terms of total wealth but we are losing ground to China quickly.

    To determine the value of U.S. welfare in relation to the rest of the world you have to factor a few details. The average welfare recipient in the U.S. receives $1000 per month when compared to 60% of the world population that makes less than $100 U.S. Dollars equivalent per month. But the cost of living varies substantially in the U.S. and even more so throughout the world. There is some statistics that try to adjust for those differences and they calculated that the average person in the entire world earns the equivalent of $1450 per month of buying power in their own nation. This means that a person on welfare in the U.S. has a standard of living only better than maybe 40% of the world population.
     
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    jamestheless

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    Our allies in Pacific theater.

    Joint naval exercises in South China Sea. HMS Queen Elizabeth, with strike force, joins U.S. naval forces. Also lending support in behalf of Taiwan is Australia, Japan, South East Asia, Philipines, couple more enroute. Actually amazed at Biden Administration working so well and playing nice with such diverse maritime associates ♡.
     

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