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  • fidelity

    piled higher and deeper
    MDS Supporter
    Aug 15, 2012
    22,400
    Frederick County
    Gorgeous rifle. What model Anschutz is it? Have you gotten any range time with it?
     

    F-Stop

    Ultimate Member
    Feb 16, 2009
    2,484
    Cecil County
    Thanks. It’s a model 1710. I believe it may be one where Cooper used Anschutz barreled actions and installed their stock and bottom metal.

    I haven’t got to range yet. Plan to within this week.


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    fidelity

    piled higher and deeper
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    Aug 15, 2012
    22,400
    Frederick County
    Ah, I've heard of this sporter model before, but am not confident enough with the Anschutz line to guess. Sounds like a wonderful collaboration, Anschutz and Cooper. The stock and overall integration are real eye catchers. I suspect that it'll shoot as good as it looks. Congrats on checking this box
     

    TheOriginalMexicanBob

    Ultimate Member
    Jul 2, 2017
    32,225
    Sun City West, AZ
    Just picked these up...two Colt Woodsman pistols...one a standard Woodsman and one a Match Target. The Woodsman is from 1963 and the Match Target from 1971.
    Woodsman-pistols.jpg


    At the same time I picked up this Reising "Bear". These were designed by Eugene Reising who was the designer for the Reising submachine gun of WWII notoriety. I did some research on these and there's not a whole lot about them and some information is conflicting. They were made from 1921-1924 or thereabouts depending on the source. It seems the general agreement is maybe 5000 were made in Hartford, CT and less than 1000 with a New York address though it's not clear if they were actually built in NY or still made in CT. There were apparently several shops that made them in CT for Eugene Reising. The NY addressed examples have serial numbers over 10,000 so the thought is that was an arbitrary starting place for those. There's conflicting information at what serial number production began in CT...some say it started at serial number 1 and some say it started at 1000 or 1001. It's pretty confusing.

    The grips say "It's a Bear" with a bear's image. The significance of the name seems to be lost to time.

    One thing all research agrees on is these are well made pistols and the barrel is cleaned from the breach end as the barrel is hinged and tilts open. Another thing is they're designed only for standard speed .22LR...high speed ammunition can cause the slide to crack.
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    Jul 1, 2012
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    At the same time I picked up this Reising "Bear". These were designed by Eugene Reising who was the designer for the Reising submachine gun of WWII notoriety. I did some research on these and there's not a whole lot about them and some information is conflicting. They were made from 1921-1924 or thereabouts depending on the source. It seems the general agreement is maybe 5000 were made in Hartford, CT and less than 1000 with a New York address though it's not clear if they were actually built in NY or still made in CT. There were apparently several shops that made them in CT for Eugene Reising. The NY addressed examples have serial numbers over 10,000 so the thought is that was an arbitrary starting place for those. There's conflicting information at what serial number production began in CT...some say it started at serial number 1 and some say it started at 1000 or 1001. It's pretty confusing.

    The grips say "It's a Bear" with a bear's image. The significance of the name seems to be lost to time.

    One thing all research agrees on is these are well made pistols and the barrel is cleaned from the breach end as the barrel is hinged and tilts open. Another thing is they're designed only for standard speed .22LR...high speed ammunition can cause the slide to crack.

    A trio with cracked slides...
    the grips are very fragile too and tend crack/chip especially at the lower screw hole... be careful :)

    The early CT guns had a really nice high-polish finish and fire-blued small parts. I don't have a good picture of mine; it's not on par with the early Colt charcoal-blue finish but it's close.

    Attached is a scan of a pretty scarce owner's manual. As you can see they didn't call it a "Bear", it's just the "Reising Automatic Pistol, Target Model" and "Reising .22 Automatic Pistol." The "It's a Bear" and the logo are basically trademarks like Savage's chief's head.
     

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    Melnic

    Ultimate Member
    MDS Supporter
    Dec 27, 2012
    15,285
    HoCo
    Wow, C&R Envy!

    In that condition, those pulled a pretty penny I bet!
    For those that don't know, the Woodsman is a HIGHLY desirable item and fetches good $ when sold, especially in that condition.
    I passed one up at market priced back in 2014 that I totally regret not getting.


    Just picked these up...two Colt Woodsman pistols...one a standard Woodsman and one a Match Target. The Woodsman is from 1963 and the Match Target from 1971.
    Woodsman-pistols.jpg


    At the same time I picked up this Reising "Bear". These were designed by Eugene Reising who was the designer for the Reising submachine gun of WWII notoriety. I did some research on these and there's not a whole lot about them and some information is conflicting. They were made from 1921-1924 or thereabouts depending on the source. It seems the general agreement is maybe 5000 were made in Hartford, CT and less than 1000 with a New York address though it's not clear if they were actually built in NY or still made in CT. There were apparently several shops that made them in CT for Eugene Reising. The NY addressed examples have serial numbers over 10,000 so the thought is that was an arbitrary starting place for those. There's conflicting information at what serial number production began in CT...some say it started at serial number 1 and some say it started at 1000 or 1001. It's pretty confusing.

    The grips say "It's a Bear" with a bear's image. The significance of the name seems to be lost to time.

    One thing all research agrees on is these are well made pistols and the barrel is cleaned from the breach end as the barrel is hinged and tilts open. Another thing is they're designed only for standard speed .22LR...high speed ammunition can cause the slide to crack.
    Reising.jpg


    Bear-grips.jpg
     

    TheOriginalMexicanBob

    Ultimate Member
    Jul 2, 2017
    32,225
    Sun City West, AZ
    Both Woodsman were under market value...but not substantially so. The Reising I might have overpaid by a bit...but I wanted it. Market value for these from what I've been researching...is all over the place. With a fairly uncommon gun that is somewhat unknown in the marketplace, trying to come up with a fair market value is like trying to nail jello to a tree...no real track record to analyze.

    I truly enjoy collecting Colts...but I'm also the occasional sucker for oddball stuff at times. That doesn't just apply to firearms...but cars (always liked Studebakers) as well.
     
    At the same time I picked up this Reising "Bear". These were designed by Eugene Reising who was the designer for the Reising submachine gun of WWII notoriety. I did some research on these and there's not a whole lot about them and some information is conflicting. They were made from 1921-1924 or thereabouts depending on the source. It seems the general agreement is maybe 5000 were made in Hartford, CT and less than 1000 with a New York address though it's not clear if they were actually built in NY or still made in CT. There were apparently several shops that made them in CT for Eugene Reising. The NY addressed examples have serial numbers over 10,000 so the thought is that was an arbitrary starting place for those. There's conflicting information at what serial number production began in CT...some say it started at serial number 1 and some say it started at 1000 or 1001. It's pretty confusing.

    The grips say "It's a Bear" with a bear's image. The significance of the name seems to be lost to time.

    One thing all research agrees on is these are well made pistols and the barrel is cleaned from the breach end as the barrel is hinged and tilts open. Another thing is they're designed only for standard speed .22LR...high speed ammunition can cause the slide to crack.

    "There's not such thing as paying too much, just paying too soon" -- the guy who sold me my H&R Reising.

    Mine is a New York Model in the 11K range that looks just like top one in SOM Mustangs top pic.

    There is someone writing a book on the history of the H&R Model 65/165/General/Leatherneck rifles, and mentioned there would be a chapter dedicated to the Reising pistol as well.



    A trio with cracked slides...
    the grips are very fragile too and tend crack/chip especially at the lower screw hole... be careful :)

    The early CT guns had a really nice high-polish finish and fire-blued small parts. I don't have a good picture of mine; it's not on par with the early Colt charcoal-blue finish but it's close.

    Attached is a scan of a pretty scarce owner's manual. As you can see they didn't call it a "Bear", it's just the "Reising Automatic Pistol, Target Model" and "Reising .22 Automatic Pistol." The "It's a Bear" and the logo are basically trademarks like Savage's chief's head.

    Thank you sir for saving those pistols rather than parting them out. Its a shame to see they were damaged from careless ownership (Mossberg Brownies also share this fate). I believe I will send you a PM.



    Both Woodsman were under market value...but not substantially so. The Reising I might have overpaid by a bit...but I wanted it. Market value for these from what I've been researching...is all over the place. With a fairly uncommon gun that is somewhat unknown in the marketplace, trying to come up with a fair market value is like trying to nail jello to a tree...no real track record to analyze.

    I truly enjoy collecting Colts...but I'm also the occasional sucker for oddball stuff at times. That doesn't just apply to firearms...but cars (always liked Studebakers) as well.


    Right now (11/12/2021) there are four on the 'broker; three Hartford and one New York, also a single right grip.

    I remember lucking into an original two-tone magazine for mine, those mags are pretty fragile BTW.
     

    Occam

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    Feb 24, 2018
    20,241
    Montgomery County
    Since we're shooting a lot more rimfire while on extended plinking sessions, I decided to spend almost a new-decent-pistol's-worth to be able to swap the upper on my beloved 9mm CZ Shadow 2, and let it be a big, steel, ergonomically wonderful (for my hands) .22 for fun and training. A few hundred rounds later, it will pay for itself. Wish I could find one of these for my wife's CZ 75 variant - hen's teeth, for some reason. Anyway, here's my big new (in a way) 22.

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    blankford

    Active Member
    Apr 29, 2015
    407
    Bel Air
    BRN22LR build

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    Parts list;
    Brownells railed receiver
    ETC chassis
    BCM Mod 0 grip
    FS1913 brace (polymer)
    Ruger bolt
    Kidd bolt handle
    Volquartsen trigger
    Kidd stainless plunger
    TandemKross mag release
    Kidd bolt buffer
    Enoch Stubby 4.5" barrel
    Silencerco Warlock suppressor
    Holosun 507C X2 in the mail to replace the Bushnell RSX100
    BX-25 mag, BX-15's on the way
    USA slings
    IWC barrier handstop
    IWC QD sling point
    Flatline Fiber Co brace strap and sling band

    Initial thoughts are I don't like how the brace flexes. I have the aluminum version on another gun and wish I had dropped the extra $40 for it again. I'll wrap it in paracord and live with it I guess. The barrel/can fitment is very tight with the top rail on the chassis and I can't spin the can with it on. I may remove the top rail and just freeball it. The barrel weighs nothing, it's like 4.5oz which is nuts. I had the 6" KIDD barrel and it was 1lb! Insane! Swapped it out and am glad I did. They both cost the same, like $170-180. The trigger is incredible and is the most I've ever spent on any trigger, including my nice 2-stage AR triggers. With no red dot or mag it's 4lbs on the nose!
     
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    rbird7282

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    MDS Supporter
    Dec 6, 2012
    18,545
    Columbia
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    Parts list;
    Brownells railed receiver
    ETC chassis
    BCM Mod 0 grip
    FS1913 brace (polymer)
    Ruger bolt
    Kidd bolt handle
    Volquartsen trigger
    Kidd stainless plunger
    TandemKross mag release
    Kidd bolt buffer
    Enoch Stubby 4.5" barrel
    Silencerco Warlock suppressor
    Holosun 507C X2 in the mail to replace the Bushnell RSX100
    BX-25 mag, BX-15's on the way
    USA slings
    IWC barrier handstop
    IWC QD sling point
    Flatline Fiber Co brace strap and sling band

    Initial thoughts are I don't like how the brace flexes. I have the aluminum version on another gun and wish I had dropped the extra $40 for it again. I'll wrap it in paracord and live with it I guess. The barrel/can fitment is very tight with the top rail on the chassis and I can't spin the can with it on. I may remove the top rail and just freeball it. The barrel weighs nothing, it's like 4.5oz which is nuts. I had the 6" KIDD barrel and it was 1lb! Insane! Swapped it out and am glad I did. They both cost the same, like $170-180. The trigger is incredible and is the most I've ever spent on any trigger, including my nice 2-stage AR triggers. With no red dot or mag it's 4lbs on the nose!
    Need pics!
     

    Diesel-Dad

    Active Member
    Jun 25, 2016
    305
    HARFORD COUNTY
    Very nice. I lucked into a 39M not too long back. Is that an early 1990s Model 60 on the left?


    I have not identified the date of any yet. My four day weekend that is coming up will leave me plenary of free time for that. The 60 does not have the plastic bullseye on the stock oddly.


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