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  • willtill

    The Dude Abides
    MDS Supporter
    May 15, 2007
    24,525
    Well, not really porn, but opening day a couple weeks ago. A borrowed gem, completely utilitarian, not the prettiest girl at the party, but she’s dead balls accurate out to 70-80y offhand with just a bead and sluggers. Stoeger 350 NWTF prize.

    I’ve never been a Stoeger fan. But this one shoots well. I’ve used it for several seasons over the years and been successful every year.

    That's a nice way to spend an early Thanksgiving morning. :)
     

    SCARCQB

    Get Opp my rawn, Plick!
    Jun 25, 2008
    13,614
    Undisclosed location
    Turknelli m4 clone
    AKSA S4 ( SDS imports )

    With a shortened stock. ( waiting on an urbino )
     

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    SCARCQB

    Get Opp my rawn, Plick!
    Jun 25, 2008
    13,614
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    My brother’s shotgun overseas. ( Philippines )

    The newest rendition of the Benelli m4-a1 14” entry shotgun in battle brown cerakote.
    It has the new 5 position telestock, fiber optic sights ,quad rail forearm, enlarged bolt release button and supports mobile -Benelli/ beretta screw on chokes.

    US NFA laws suck.
     

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    Sirex

    Powered by natural gas
    Oct 30, 2010
    10,419
    Westminster, MD
    My brother’s shotgun overseas. ( Philippines )

    The newest rendition of the Benelli m4-a1 14” entry shotgun in battle brown cerakote.
    It has the new 5 position telestock, fiber optic sights ,quad rail forearm, enlarged bolt release button and supports mobile -Benelli/ beretta screw on chokes.

    US NFA laws suck.

    What are you talking about NFA laws suck??? Look at that thing. With its 14" barrel versus the uber safe 18" barrel shotguns, some 8 year old kid could stuff that in his front jeans pocket and then mow down a thousand kids at school with it being undetected! Bless our ATF and the 4 inches that could very well save our little lives. :D
     

    Johnny5k

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    Nov 24, 2020
    1,021
    New addition to the family.
     

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    Johnny5k

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    Nov 24, 2020
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    She’s a beauty. May I asked where you purchased it? Wouldn’t mind having one for myself.

    Its a Langdon Tactical 1301. Bought straight from Langdon tactical.

    I had prepared a post, to let everyone here know they came back in stock, but, before I could hit post, they sold out.

    I've bid on two on gunbroker, but they went for way over MSRP, and over what I was willing to pay.

    You can do all the mods yourself, but getting all the aridus parts in stock is equally challenging if not more so, and some of the parts are going for crazy prices on the secondary market as well. By the time you pay shipping on the parts, you're likely over what LTT charges as well.

    Best bet is to sign up for the email notifications on langdon tactical. I think they occaisonally take deposits on them as well. I got lucky. I was intending to seach gunbroker, but typed in the address bar instead of GB search bar, then out of habit clicked the LTT site result and to my surprise, saw an add to cart button.

    I wanted the FDE version, but I am very happy with the OD green.
     

    SCARCQB

    Get Opp my rawn, Plick!
    Jun 25, 2008
    13,614
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    Final configuration of the turknelli m4 clone.
     

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    Johnny5k

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    Nov 24, 2020
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    Final configuration of the turknelli m4 clone.

    Isn't that a banned AW?? Not to get all BGOS, just curious.

    ETA, Nope I looked up what I was thinking of. I thought it was a semi with a pistol grip that was banned, but it is a semi with a folding stock.

    Nevermind.
     

    erwos

    The Hebrew Hammer
    MDS Supporter
    Mar 25, 2009
    13,886
    Rockville, MD
    Always concerned about parts availability for this slew of Turk guns rushing in over the last year or so
    For the guns we're discussing, Benelli M4 parts are literally plug and play with very few exceptions. There's a guy on ARFCOM who replaced damn near every part on his Tac-12 with Benelli M4 parts, including the BCG. I don't think parts availability is a major concern with those.

    Now, the Stoeger M3000s, which aren't exact M2 clones, those I'd be more concerned about... but Stoeger is owned by Beretta/Benelli, so I feel like they're going to do the right thing. Can't wait for Beretta to let Stoeger use the 1301 operating system for a gun, that's going to be amazing.
     

    erwos

    The Hebrew Hammer
    MDS Supporter
    Mar 25, 2009
    13,886
    Rockville, MD
    That makes them more appealing

    M4s are just damned unaffordable. Everything Benelli is it seems. All I want is a police trade Super 90
    I am going to be running mine at a ~200-300 round count shotgun class this Sunday, and I am going to be using buckshot heavily since I'm short on birdshot. If it comes back without any damage, you'll know these things are solid.

    If not, well, that's what a warranty is for. :)
     

    SCARCQB

    Get Opp my rawn, Plick!
    Jun 25, 2008
    13,614
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    I was curious about the parts issue as well.
    Just for the heck of it. The original Benelli m4 parts do fit on the SDS S4 clone.

    The only complain I have about the S4 is the finish. It’s rough and wears out quickly. It looks like a black oxide that rubbed off easily on edges.
     

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    erwos

    The Hebrew Hammer
    MDS Supporter
    Mar 25, 2009
    13,886
    Rockville, MD
    Yeah, not so terribly surprising that a $400 shotgun doesn't have a baller finish. Maybe I'm just lazy, but a little silver doesn't usually bother me, and when it does, it's a Birchwood-Casey pen away from being fixed.
     

    erwos

    The Hebrew Hammer
    MDS Supporter
    Mar 25, 2009
    13,886
    Rockville, MD
    Let us know how it does, I am interested in these.:thumbsup:
    I ran the SDS S4 all day at a Green Ops shotgun class today. About 200 rounds, straight mix of buck and bird. The buckshot was cheap Estate 00 with a few rounds of FFC 8 pellet mixed in. The birdshot was all over the place - Federal, Winchester, and Remington, and a total mix of size/speed/etc.

    The SDS S4 was modified with a Benelli extractor and spring, and with a Mesa Urbino stock. No optics. It ran 100%. And not the "forum 100%" where once-in-a-while failures are chalked up as shouldering issues. This thing ran 100%. Not a single failure all day. Outperformed a couple of the 1301s there in that respect.

    When I pulled out the action for inspection after class, it was perfect. No visible peening of the pistons or the bolt carrier. Gun itself wasn't even all that dirty.

    The only things I think were a problem:
    1. I am about 99% certain the rear sight elevation was moving on me. I am not sure what the fix is, except maybe putting in a true Benelli M4 rear sight. In the meantime, when you zero it, I'd absolutely paint a witness mark.
    2. The loading port edges were sharp. A little dehorning would go a long way.
     

    Johnny5k

    Ultimate Member
    Nov 24, 2020
    1,021
    I ran the SDS S4 all day at a Green Ops shotgun class today. About 200 rounds, straight mix of buck and bird. The buckshot was cheap Estate 00 with a few rounds of FFC 8 pellet mixed in. The birdshot was all over the place - Federal, Winchester, and Remington, and a total mix of size/speed/etc.

    The SDS S4 was modified with a Benelli extractor and spring, and with a Mesa Urbino stock. No optics. It ran 100%. And not the "forum 100%" where once-in-a-while failures are chalked up as shouldering issues. This thing ran 100%. Not a single failure all day. Outperformed a couple of the 1301s there in that respect.

    When I pulled out the action for inspection after class, it was perfect. No visible peening of the pistons or the bolt carrier. Gun itself wasn't even all that dirty.

    The only things I think were a problem:
    1. I am about 99% certain the rear sight elevation was moving on me. I am not sure what the fix is, except maybe putting in a true Benelli M4 rear sight. In the meantime, when you zero it, I'd absolutely paint a witness mark.
    2. The loading port edges were sharp. A little dehorning would go a long way.

    I wouldn't worry about that too much, I mean I finally shot that LTT 1301 and the front sight was loose and every screw on the CROM mount was loose after about 20 rounds. All three mounting screws and the both windage adjustment screws were hanging, very lucky not to lose any.
     

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