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  • JettaRed

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    Mar 13, 2013
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    I tried searching but could not find anything, but has there been any new laws restricting powder sales in Maryland? I am aware of the five pound storage limit fire regulation, but I recently tried to buy powder from Wideners and it was denied.

    Calling them, they said they got a notice about three weeks ago restricting or reporting powder sales to Maryland, and have therefore stopped all gunpowder sales to Maryland. (They said that they will not report any of their sales to states requiring that they do. They expect to lose a lot of business in Soviet Republic of California - my words - come November when they have to report ammo sales.)

    Anybody know anything about this?
     

    Uncle Duke

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    Not sure what's prompting this, but sure enough, no powder sales to Maryland via Wideners.

    Just went to their site and "ordered" powder.

    Upon typing in a Maryland zip code for a freight quote, here's the message that appears........

    "Unfortunately, regulations in the State of Maryland prohibit us from shipping powder to our customers in Maryland."
     

    Shoobedoo

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    Jun 1, 2013
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    Have not heard or seen anything specifically on this, though nothing would surprise me in the Socialist Democratic Republic of Maryland.

    In the long run, even if what you're hearing is true, it should have little more impact on reloaders than the restriction on magazines, ie. you'll simply have to purchase your powder outside the Iron Curtain and bring it in yourself, instead of having it delivered to your doorstep within the state. In the end, yes it will be a pain in the neck and a hurdle for reloaders, but ultimately little more than a nuisance. I suppose the Democratic machine that controls this state could try and make possession of powder illegal, but that might conflict with Federal law, and even if it doesn't it would almost certainly be challenged in the courts. I literally dream of the day I can permanently depart this Liberal dungeon, but I do understand that's not an option for many.

    It's a bit of a drive for most Marylander's but Shyda's in Lebanon PA has a good selection of supplies, and if you're buying a significant quantity of powder, primers, etc. it might be worth the trip. Alternatively, if you have a friend or relative nearby in W.Va. PA or VA, have them order it for you and go pick it up.
     

    JettaRed

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    Mar 13, 2013
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    I told the nice lady that Cabela's and Midsouth Shooters don't seem to have a problem with shipping to Maryland. She said their lawyers said no until they figure things out. It's the "recent notice" thing that has me confused. The fire regulations are old news.
     

    teratos

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    Who can blame them? I can totally understand why firearms related businesses don't want to do business in Maryland.
     

    Uncle Duke

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    I told the nice lady that Cabela's and Midsouth Shooters don't seem to have a problem with shipping to Maryland. She said their lawyers said no until they figure things out. It's the "recent notice" thing that has me confused. The fire regulations are old news.

    My thoughts also. Not sure what prompted this? Perhaps a corporate legal eagle? Perhaps something else in the way of a prompt?? :shrug: Thinking they recently changed hands too.

    Wideners has long had a shipping and disclaimer policy that reads in many ways similar to a Form 4473. A stronger than typical dose of legalese comes to mind. More so than other supply houses.

    Who knows?

    https://www.wideners.com/shipping-and-other-policies
     

    RonInMD

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    kraftyone

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    My thoughts also. Not sure what prompted this? Perhaps a corporate legal eagle? Perhaps something else in the way of a prompt?? :shrug: Thinking they recently changed hands too.

    Wideners has long had a shipping and disclaimer policy that reads in many ways similar to a Form 4473. A stronger than typical dose of legalese comes to mind. More so than other supply houses.

    Who knows?

    https://www.wideners.com/shipping-and-other-policies

    My guess is the change in ownership and and probably different legal council. I am still bummed they stopped selling C&R guns.
     

    K31

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    Not new. The law says you have to record sales, it doesn't say face-to-face in MD only.
     
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    trickg

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    I told the nice lady that Cabela's and Midsouth Shooters don't seem to have a problem with shipping to Maryland. She said their lawyers said no until they figure things out. It's the "recent notice" thing that has me confused. The fire regulations are old news.
    Midway USA also doesn't have an issue shipping to MD as far as I know, and what's more, the last time I ordered powder, they didn't have what I wanted in stock (They were supposed to receive a shipment, but didn't) so they called me to ask me how I wanted to proceed, and then hooked me up with a great solution for an alternate powder that actually saved me a few bucks. :party29:
     

    TheBert

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    Not sure what's prompting this, but sure enough, no powder sales to Maryland via Wideners.

    Just went to their site and "ordered" powder.

    Upon typing in a Maryland zip code for a freight quote, here's the message that appears........

    "Unfortunately, regulations in the State of Maryland prohibit us from shipping powder to our customers in Maryland."

    You can have your guns but you can't have ammo. Buy ammo now!

    If they want you to stop driving they can put an exorbitant excise tax on tires. You can have your car, you can have gasoline but, you can't have any tires.
     

    DutchV

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    Jul 8, 2012
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    If other dealers will ship here, use them. Powder Valley maybe? Or organize a roadtrip with a friend or two to buy stuff out of state. Sure it's a drag but it's an excuse to get out of town with your buddies, too.
     

    stu929

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    Jan 2, 2012
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    Ive been debating planning such a trip. I like 844 but its hard to find and when you find it its in larger qty so need to split with others.

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    Blacksmith101

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    Jun 22, 2012
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    Just add powder to your shopping list when you go to sales tax free Delaware to buy your standard capacity magazines.
     

    normbal

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    I told the nice lady that Cabela's and Midsouth Shooters don't seem to have a problem with shipping to Maryland. She said their lawyers said no until they figure things out. It's the "recent notice" thing that has me confused. The fire regulations are old news.

    Similar thing with PSA not shipping ammunition to Montgomery county. Someone's reading the law wrong and the owner just basically says F you if you order from them. I did my level best to explain to them with references to state/county law/regs about two years back and got rebuffed at every step.

    Seems to me there's a clause in the Constitution requiring congress to make commerce between the states "regular."

    Never mind.
     

    Art3

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    Who can blame them? I can totally understand why firearms related businesses don't want to do business in Maryland.

    This comment made me think of what Beretta had to do to not do business in MD. :sad20:

    It is as sad as it is understandable....then we read other threads about business that do deal in/with MD being a-hats...
     

    GunnerGunz

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    This is why I drive to Cabelas in Delaware for powder no tax, no hazmat, no hassle. I usually stop by on my way back from my dads house in NJ.
     

    Engine4

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    W.E.Sell Sporting Goods in Hanover has a good reloading supply in stock.
     

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