bigmanindc
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Shockwave is inelligible. Maybe because of OAL or non-shotgun status since it's not designed to be fired from the shoulder. Or because the chief felt like it.
Is there a list that shows elgible items to register?
Shockwave is inelligible. Maybe because of OAL or non-shotgun status since it's not designed to be fired from the shoulder. Or because the chief felt like it.
To me, that's the biggest advantage of the Ruger Mini-14 and Mini-30; a semi-auto legal in a place where many others are not. I think Bill Ruger was very crafty they way he marketed the Min-14 with the 5 round mags which (IMHO) kept them off the radar.
Is there a list that shows elgible items to register?
A list of eligible firearms would be more restrictive than a list of ineligible ones. Though it's already restrictive as it is.[/QUOTE said:What is this, Voodoo?
For DC the best centerfire rifles IMHO you can register are as follows:
ARES/FightLite SCR
Pros
This is the closest you can get to an AR
It takes AR mags. 10 round restrictions still applies.
It takes AR uppers with all of the modular sight, flashlight, laser, picatinny cup holder… options
You can change caliber to 300 Blackout, 6.5 Grendal, 6.8, etc. To be legal you must inform registration new calibers you have. IIRC the is punishment is 10 years in prison for an unregistered caliber.
Cons
The factory upper is not very impressive. DC will not allow you to only register a lower.
The bolt catch is an additional $40
An ambidextrous magazine release is helpful because you cannot reach the right side mag release
The photo taken by Innevets at registration has a mistake. They say Dark Storm California compliant are “Yes! Yes!” DC legal. By the letter of the law, they are wrong. Be careful on that.
If you are willing to go bolt-action, you should be able to get around the feature restrictions, since they only apply to "a semiautomatic, rifle that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine."
E.g. Mossberg MVP LC (https://www.mossberg.com/product/mvp-lc-rifle-28017/).
Same for pump action shotguns, as long as you meet the barrels and overall length requirements.
E.g. Mossberg 500 Tactical (https://www.mossberg.com/product/500-tactical-6-shot-50440/)
Agree. The factory upper is less than ideal. It also doesn't have a brass deflector, so worse so for leftys. There are rail mounted deflectors out there, but they can cause jams. What was the procedure to register additional uppers? I've stuck with the factory upper thus far.
What makes the featureless DS-15 in breach of the law?
https://www.dark-storm.com/dsi/ds-1...storm-ds-15-moe-featureless-5.56-rifle-black/
Doesn't seem to have:
(aa) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the
weapon;
(bb) A thumbhole stock;
(cc) A folding or telescoping stock;
(dd) A grenade launcher or flare launch-
er;
(ee) A flash suppressor; or (ff) A forward pistol grip;
Agree. The factory upper is less than ideal. It also doesn't have a brass deflector, so worse so for leftys. There are rail mounted deflectors out there, but they can cause jams. What was the procedure to register additional uppers? I've stuck with the factory upper thus far.
What makes the featureless DS-15 in breach of the law?
https://www.dark-storm.com/dsi/ds-1...storm-ds-15-moe-featureless-5.56-rifle-black/
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I spoke with the registration officer and he said I would need to update the registration PD-219 form from .223/5.56 to also include the caliber of the new upper. I am currently just using .223 uppers so I have not made the update in practice.
You are right. I thought it was a detachable mag. Everyday is a school day.
This is what LT Hall told me to do when I asked about a .22lr conversion kit:
"If you wish to include a .22 conversion kit, add that information to the calibers of the firearm when completing the firearms registration form and bring that to the attention of the staff member assisting you."
Also, the DSI DS-15 has a detachable magazine, it just doesn't have any of the AW features.
From what I understand if the magazine is attached and can't be removed you can have all the other features such as the pistol grip, am I correct?
For DC the best centerfire rifles IMHO you can register are as follows:
ARES/FightLite SCR
Pros
This is the closest you can get to an AR
It takes AR mags. 10 round restrictions still applies.
It takes AR uppers with all of the modular sight, flashlight, laser, picatinny cup holder… options
You can change caliber to 300 Blackout, 6.5 Grendal, 6.8, etc. To be legal you must inform registration new calibers you have. IIRC the is punishment is 10 years in prison for an unregistered caliber.
Cons
The factory upper is not very impressive. DC will not allow you to only register a lower.
The bolt catch is an additional $40
An ambidextrous magazine release is helpful because you cannot reach the right side mag release
Ruger Mini 14/30
Pros
It just works
Cons
Limited optic options
Does not have the modularity of the SCR
Mags are expensive
SKS
Pros
Affordable
Cons
You must keep the fixed box magazine
Not modern
M1A
Pros
.308 loads of fun
Cons
Many of the aftermarket stock options will add a pistol style grip which may or may not be compliant
Not modern
Garand
Pros
Ping!
30.06
Cons
Not modern
The photo taken by Innevets at registration has a mistake. They say Dark Storm California compliant are “Yes! Yes!” DC legal. By the letter of the law, they are wrong. Be careful on that.
You can register an M1 carbine as well, but you have to show up with one of those crappy 10-round aftermarket magazines.
You don't need to bring in any magazines. Just list the capacity as "10" on the registration form.
For DC the best centerfire rifles IMHO you can register are as follows:
ARES/FightLite SCR
Pros
This is the closest you can get to an AR
It takes AR mags. 10 round restrictions still applies.
It takes AR uppers with all of the modular sight, flashlight, laser, picatinny cup holder… options
You can change caliber to 300 Blackout, 6.5 Grendal, 6.8, etc. To be legal you must inform registration new calibers you have. IIRC the is punishment is 10 years in prison for an unregistered caliber.
Cons
The factory upper is not very impressive. DC will not allow you to only register a lower.
The bolt catch is an additional $40
An ambidextrous magazine release is helpful because you cannot reach the right side mag release
IIRC the ruling in Hellet III that struck down the requirement to bring your firearm to HQ for registration also included magazines.
Not 100% sure on that however
Just call them and have them send out a card that says "multi" in caliber field.What was the procedure to register additional [SCR]uppers? I've stuck with the factory upper thus far.