Bertfish
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I have a 1918 Savage 99 in .30-30 which is a damned fine rifle
"Vintage" Hunting Rifles
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Googling Husqvarna 1640, and this is the first result, lol:
https://simpsonltd.com/husqvarna-1640-1/
Not sure about value and if the scope makes it worth-while. They seem to have others for less, without an optic... I don't know that $800 is considered cheap, but they have some for $400 without a scope that also look pretty nice.
budman93
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Mine looked like new and was $350.
Remington Model 8 and 81s, Winchester 1907 SLs, Savage 99s. Winchester 1895s, and many other classic and iconic hunting rifles are always in high demand on the collecting market.
I personally tend to look for sporting guns that are a hallmark in firearms engineering and manufacturing. For example, the 8/81 and 1907SL fill the "first successful sporting semi-autos" niche. The 1895 and Savage 99 fill the "iconic" lever-action niche. etc.
A good example (non rifle) is the Remington 878. Short time on the market. Arguably the first successful Remington self-regulating gas-operated auto-loading shotgun, and it has the unique distinction of being the only gun Remington ever made and allowed someone else to put their name on without any mention of Remington anywhere in the form of the Wards Western Field 600A-ERI. I have an example of both with the 600A-ERI actually beating out the Rem 878 in terms of usability given the full-length vent-rib and a few other little perks that it had standard vs the Remington tiered system.
I personally tend to look for sporting guns that are a hallmark in firearms engineering and manufacturing. For example, the 8/81 and 1907SL fill the "first successful sporting semi-autos" niche. The 1895 and Savage 99 fill the "iconic" lever-action niche. etc.
A good example (non rifle) is the Remington 878. Short time on the market. Arguably the first successful Remington self-regulating gas-operated auto-loading shotgun, and it has the unique distinction of being the only gun Remington ever made and allowed someone else to put their name on without any mention of Remington anywhere in the form of the Wards Western Field 600A-ERI. I have an example of both with the 600A-ERI actually beating out the Rem 878 in terms of usability given the full-length vent-rib and a few other little perks that it had standard vs the Remington tiered system.
Bertfish
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Model 8 is on my list for sure. Half heartedly looked thus far, no decent examples at gun shows either.
If I were to go for an 1895 I'd probably want the Russian contract musket. Not the hunting pattern I know.
What are some older rifle manufacturers that get overlooked?
If I were to go for an 1895 I'd probably want the Russian contract musket. Not the hunting pattern I know.
What are some older rifle manufacturers that get overlooked?
rj1974
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Winchester model 54 and a old Mauser that Griffin and Howe prettied up and rebarreled to 30-06 in 1932 are my current favorites .
Well the Krag is pretty close to out of the box carbine with better sights. The 03A3 was completely rebuilt, all that remains is the action and even that had a hinged floorplate and scope ready safety. Love the old Command Post glass and Fagen stock. Aftermarket barrel but no idea who's. I like this more than either of my model 70's.
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Bertfish
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Pics of that G&H?
rj1974
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I'll post some as soon as Browningguy brings my phone back , it just went for a ride in the back of his truck .
Biggfoot44
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Or you could take the opposite approach from Talon in seeking iconic guns .
Lots of private labels , and arms companies that weren't primarily makers of centerfire bolt actions , but wanted to add one to their product lines didn't invest in R&D and tooling to reinvent the wheel . They outsourced the actions/ barreled actions , and did their own interpretations of stocking . Initially various commercial Mausers , transitioning to primarily Howa , and Mark X today. ( Here's looking at you W'by Vangaurd , Remington M798, and '70s- '80s S&W .)
Lots of private labels , and arms companies that weren't primarily makers of centerfire bolt actions , but wanted to add one to their product lines didn't invest in R&D and tooling to reinvent the wheel . They outsourced the actions/ barreled actions , and did their own interpretations of stocking . Initially various commercial Mausers , transitioning to primarily Howa , and Mark X today. ( Here's looking at you W'by Vangaurd , Remington M798, and '70s- '80s S&W .)
Bertfish
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Howa makes damn fine rifles. I shot my cousins years ago and was amazed that I clipped a dime with it. Honestly sort of forgot about them, good call.
What rifles did S&W make?
Doco Overboard
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The mounts are pretty neat on the A3.
Dovetailed right to the scope tube it looks like.
rj1974
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Phone is back from it's road trip.
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I have a special place in my heart for private label guns. Especially the old "Hardware" or "Dept. Store" variety. That's actually what got me into the Rem 878s. I picked up that Ward's Western Field 600A-ERI from an online auction out of Ohio several years ago. Turned out to be the best purchase I've ever made as I put away more pheasants and chukar with that than any of my fancier shotguns, even the "real" 878 I picked up on consignment from United last year or the year before.
There are several lists of the crossover from name brand to private label out there, though the Blue Book copy that is widely available has at least one issue of known errata in it.
Bertfish
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Wow what a rifle
Bertfish
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MexicanBob had a J C Penney shotgun for sale a while ago. Kicking myself for not picking it up.
Know what type it was?
I've found that the private-label stuff usually brings less money at auction, which is great as it means you can grab a real classic for a lot less money.
The other thing to look for are the "blue-collar" grades of various name-brand firearms. The hardware/dept. store private labels definitely fit the bill here, but gun makers also had a habit, especially in the first half of the last century, of making less expensive versions of their signature lines with another name on them. This is especially true of the American double-gun market but also spilled over into the rifle world as well. Double-gun examples are LeFever from Ithaca, Riverside, Springfield, Cumberland, and many others from Stevens, etc.
Biggfoot44
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The S&W M1500 , back in the Bangor Punta era .
Long and short Howa 1500 actions , in all the popular calibers of the day .
The Standard model had iron sights , and Classic- ish stock with basic grade Walnut . The Deluxe model had no sights , slightly nicer Walnut , Monte Carlo stock, hand cut checkering
And then there were the S&W shotguns .
Long and short Howa 1500 actions , in all the popular calibers of the day .
The Standard model had iron sights , and Classic- ish stock with basic grade Walnut . The Deluxe model had no sights , slightly nicer Walnut , Monte Carlo stock, hand cut checkering
And then there were the S&W shotguns .
Yup, I suspect a factory conversion but can't say for certain. I got it at Redding's for 400 I think when I lived in Md.
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