A Real Scary Anti-Self Defense Bill from Texas

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  • MDFF2008

    Ultimate Member
    Aug 12, 2008
    24,735
    A new bill proposed in Texas repeals the castle doctrine, and doesn't stop there.

    The author of the bill has stated:

    "I'm not saying that stealing is okay," Meza explained. "All I'm saying is that it doesn't warrant a death penalty. Thieves only carry weapons for self-protection and to provide the householder an incentive to cooperate. They just want to get their loot and get away. When the resident tries to resist is when people get hurt. If only one side is armed fewer people will be killed."

    Further, she goes on to say:

    Under the new law the homeowner's obligation is to flee the home at the first sign of intrusion. If fleeing is not possible he must cooperate with the intruder. But if violence breaks out it is the homeowner's responsibility to make sure no one gets hurt. The best way to achieve this is to use the minimum non-lethal force possible because intruders will be able to sue for any injuries they receive at the hands of the homeowner."

    "In most instances the thief needs the money more than the homeowner does," Meza reasoned. "The homeowner's insurance we reimburse his losses. On balance, the transfer of property is likely to lead to a more equitable distribution of wealth. If my bill can help make this transfer a peaceful one so much the better."

    This bill sounds like it stops short of legalizing robbery. I think society is probably still conservative enough that this would struggle to fly except maybe in the most liberal of liberal places, but def a scary view of the future, where not only can you not resist, but you are responsible for the safety of the person robbing you or they can sue you.

    https://legiscan.com/TX/bill/HB196/...TRsp1KFWXCrEL9FhE5JzHz-5Nc0FXxHYRl-2BzUI7qH98
     

    wreckdiver

    Ultimate Member
    Nov 13, 2008
    2,925
    Probably should delete that before some bleeding heart MD delegate see that. It would be at the top of the list for the next general assembly.
     

    fidelity

    piled higher and deeper
    MDS Supporter
    Aug 15, 2012
    22,400
    Frederick County
    This sounds like Babylon Bee material.

    The legislator is insane.

    "Thieves only carry weapons for self-protection and to provide the householder an incentive to cooperate."

    "If fleeing is not possible he must cooperate with the intruder. But if violence breaks out it is the homeowner's responsibility to make sure no one gets hurt."

    Does she represent a district full of past felons and convicts?
     

    Kimber45

    Active Member
    Jan 14, 2011
    875
    Whiteford
    So now if this law passes, the home owner must kill every intruder, then dispose of the bodies so as not to get in trouble for defending ones self. Got it
     

    [Kev308]

    Ultimate Member
    MDS Supporter
    Jan 23, 2020
    3,797
    Maryland
    What brain damaged idiot actually has these thoughts? I hope the worst for her. This country is finished.
     

    GUNSnROTORS

    nude member
    MDS Supporter
    Jun 7, 2013
    3,620
    hic sunt dracones
    Rep. Terry Meza certainly is a busy bee. Filed a yuge list of new TX Bill Intros from 11/9 through 11/18/2020, many are anti-freedom and/or anti-American:

    https://legiscan.com/TX/people/terry-meza/id/20240


    TX HB603 Intro Relating to prohibiting this state from recognizing a license to carry a handgun issued by another state.
    TX HB588 Intro Relating to the establishment of the Texas Promise Grant Program for certain students at two-year public institutions of higher education.
    TX HB562 Intro Relating to law enforcement policies regarding de-escalation and proportionate response.
    TX HB563 Intro Relating to law enforcement policies requiring a peace officer to intervene when another peace officer uses excessive force or commits an offense.
    TX HB536 Intro Relating to the entry into the Texas Crime Information Center of information concerning the release on bond of persons charged with committing a violent offense.
    TX HB507 Intro Relating to prohibiting the confinement of inmates by the Texas Department of Criminal Justice in facilities operated by private vendors.
    TX HB117 Intro Relating to preferential voting in a primary election.
    TX HB95 Intro Relating to requiring law enforcement agencies to adopt a policy regarding the discharge of a firearm by a peace officer at or in the direction of a moving vehicle.
    TX HB250 Intro Relating to establishing a minimum wage for school bus drivers.
    TX HB178 Intro Relating to creating a criminal offense for the unlawful possession or transfer of a large-capacity magazine.
    TX HB185 Intro Relating to creating the criminal offense of failure to safely store a firearm.
    TX HJR12 Intro Proposing a constitutional amendment requiring elections on proposed amendments to the Texas Constitution to be held in November of even-numbered years.
    TX HB412 Intro Relating to the creation of a low-interest loan program for entrepreneurs with physical or mental disabilities.
    TX HB227 Intro Relating to notifying state law enforcement of an attempted acquisition of a firearm by a person prohibited from possessing a firearm.
    TX HB123 Intro Relating to participation in the countywide polling place program.
    TX HB134 Intro Relating to electronic voter registration.
    TX HB106 Intro Relating to restrictions on certain contributions by persons appointed to public office by the governor; creating a criminal offense.
    TX HB201 Intro Relating to the carrying of handguns on the campuses of and certain other locations associated with institutions of higher education.
    TX HB196 Intro Relating to the use of deadly force in defense of a person or property.
    TX HB265 Intro Relating to a report by the Texas Department of Criminal Justice on dyslexia and illiteracy among inmates.
    TX HB263 Intro Relating to rest breaks for employees of certain contractors with a governmental entity; providing an administrative penalty.
    TX HB255 Intro Relating to adjusting the minimum wage annually based on the consumer price index.
    TX HB229 Intro Relating to reporting certain orders and convictions to the Department of Public Safety.
    TX HB243 Intro Relating to a cost-of-living increase applicable to death benefits paid under the workers' compensation system.
    TX HB172 Intro Relating to creating a criminal offense for the unlawful possession or transfer of an assault weapon.
    TX HB210 Intro Relating to requiring a person convicted of an offense involving family violence or a person who is the subject of a family violence protective order to surrender firearms owned by the person.
    TX HB257 Intro Relating to the definition of economically disadvantaged person for the purposes of determining whether a business is a historically underutilized business.
    TX HB235 Intro Relating to the prohibition on the possession of a firearm by a person following the person's conviction of certain family violence misdemeanors.
    TX HB268 Intro Relating to prohibiting the use of certain techniques when using force to make an arrest or search.
    TX HB238 Intro Relating to the regulation of firearms or ammunition by a municipality or county.
    TX HB274 Intro Relating to a limitation on the authority to arrest a person for certain misdemeanors punishable by fine only.
    TX HB272 Intro Relating to a study of no-knock entries performed by law enforcement agencies in this state.
    TX HB218 Intro Relating to the regulation of certain firearm transfers; creating criminal offenses.
    TX HB208 Intro Relating to the manufacture of firearms without a federal license; creating a criminal offense.
    TX HB164 Intro Relating to extreme risk protective orders; creating criminal offenses.
    TX HB142 Intro Relating to the registration of voters at a polling place and related procedures.
    TX HB247 Intro Relating to employment leave for certain family or medical obligations.
    TX HB223 Intro Relating to the unlawful possession of a firearm by persons convicted of certain misdemeanor offenses in this state.
    TX HB76 Intro Relating to early voting by mail by any qualified voter.
     

    G O B

    Ultimate Member
    Nov 17, 2007
    1,940
    Cen TX
    Dead on arrival. This shit is just posturing. Happens every 2 years before the Legislature meets. Will never hit the floor, just playing to libtards for the next election. Only effect is to get $$$ from Soros.
     

    MDFF2008

    Ultimate Member
    Aug 12, 2008
    24,735
    Dead on arrival. This shit is just posturing. Happens every 2 years before the Legislature meets. Will never hit the floor, just playing to libtards for the next election. Only effect is to get $$$ from Soros.

    You are right, it's dead on arrival right now.

    They are telegraphing they want to go this direction. This should be front and center.
     

    CrueChief

    Cocker Dad/RIP Bella
    Apr 3, 2009
    2,999
    Napolis-ish
    A new bill proposed in Texas repeals the castle doctrine, and doesn't stop there.

    The author of the bill has stated:

    "I'm not saying that stealing is okay," Meza explained. "All I'm saying is that it doesn't warrant a death penalty. Thieves only carry weapons for self-protection and to provide the householder an incentive to cooperate. They just want to get their loot and get away. When the resident tries to resist is when people get hurt. If only one side is armed fewer people will be killed."

    Further, she goes on to say:

    Under the new law the homeowner's obligation is to flee the home at the first sign of intrusion. If fleeing is not possible he must cooperate with the intruder. But if violence breaks out it is the homeowner's responsibility to make sure no one gets hurt. The best way to achieve this is to use the minimum non-lethal force possible because intruders will be able to sue for any injuries they receive at the hands of the homeowner."

    "In most instances the thief needs the money more than the homeowner does," Meza reasoned. "The homeowner's insurance we reimburse his losses. On balance, the transfer of property is likely to lead to a more equitable distribution of wealth. If my bill can help make this transfer a peaceful one so much the better."

    This bill sounds like it stops short of legalizing robbery. I think society is probably still conservative enough that this would struggle to fly except maybe in the most liberal of liberal places, but def a scary view of the future, where not only can you not resist, but you are responsible for the safety of the person robbing you or they can sue you.

    https://legiscan.com/TX/bill/HB196/...TRsp1KFWXCrEL9FhE5JzHz-5Nc0FXxHYRl-2BzUI7qH98

    :lol::lol::lol:
     

    MaxVO2

    Ultimate Member
    MDS Supporter
    Probably should delete that before some bleeding heart MD delegate see that. It would be at the top of the list for the next general assembly.

    ****In Montgomery County you can be certain there are plenty of bleeding heart liberals perfectly happy to not wish to prosecute a thief or robber of their home as long as nobody is hurt. Homeowners insurance etc.. reimbursing and maybe the thief needed the money or whatever. These are seriously maladjusted people.

    Our Next Door app had a thread over 200 posts long because a thief was caught red handed by a Ring type camera, and it happened to be a black guy going around stealing from *multiple* locations, breaking into garages, cars, etc.. SO many people said to NOT report it to the police as they would probably shoot the poor black man dead for no reason whatsoever, and if not shot dead, it would ruin his chances of (wait for it...), getting a good job so he wouldn't have to steal. Several normal people pointed out the racism of essentially excusing stealing because it was a black man doing it.

    The same people calling for looking at cameras to find the thief or thieves were upset it wasn't an Asian American guy (busting windows with a Calculus book or something..)or white guy wearing a MAGA hat and muttering about binary triggers, etc... Absolutely insane. The moderator of the thread just started deleting long, and well reasoned responses regarding this by more normal and conservative people. The real racists are not the folks pointing out stealing is wrong.... :rolleyes:

    And now!!!! Our County Exec is shutting down ALL indoor dining again I believe beginning this upcoming Tuesday! There are a whole bunch of other restrictions as well, that will mostly put even more business here in MoCo out of business. I wonder if more poverty will increase crime... :sad20:
     

    Mightydog

    Ultimate Member
    MDS Supporter
    Sounds as bad as what this idiot is dictating in Californication. Juvies not prosecuted means their adult “handler” will assign them jobs. So bunch of trespassers on your yard and it’s “open season”?
     

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    sxs

    Senior Member
    MDS Supporter
    Nov 20, 2009
    3,377
    Anne Arundel County, MD
    This sounds like Babylon Bee material.

    The legislator is insane.

    "Thieves only carry weapons for self-protection and to provide the householder an incentive to cooperate."

    "If fleeing is not possible he must cooperate with the intruder. But if violence breaks out it is the homeowner's responsibility to make sure no one gets hurt."

    Does she represent a district full of past felons and convicts?

    I guess it might never occur to the jackass that we might want a firearm to provide an incentive for the intruder NOT to rob or harm us. Sheesh.
     

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