MD SB479 - Firearm House Storage Penalties

Art3 said:

I'd be really tempted to go "favorable with ammendments" with the ammendment being the inclusion of, "and alcoholic beverages" after every time the word "firearm" appears. It would be a stunt/bluff of sorts...but it might get some attention.

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Art3 said:

I only asked...because I'm dry as dirt and honestly didn't know. I'm assuming you can just leave it laying around anywhere?

At this point, I really don't know where to run with it, because the argument is tainted by logic...but: MD considers alcoholic beverages more dangerous than rifles and shotguns. Any 18 year old who can pass a background check can buy a long gun, but still has to wait 3 years for a beer. (Their solution would be to raise the age for long guns to 21, I'm sure ). If we really want to push public safety into the home...

Has the house version of this been heard? I'd be really tempted to go "favorable with ammendments" with the ammendment being the inclusion of, "and alcoholic beverages" after every time the word "firearm" appears. It would be a stunt/bluff of sorts...but it might get some attention.

Admittedly, the alcohol part doesn't affect me...so it's easy for me to take a "fine, burn it ALL down" approach. I understand why everyone else may not be on board

ATF has been using so much of their resources to "F" with us, isn't it about time they start working the "T" and "A" as well?

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creativetradesman said:

My biggest question and concern is how will this be enforced? Is there a clause that gives LE permission to come into your home to verify if your being compliant or is this a close cousin of the red flag so someone will need to catch you and turn you in.

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Art3 said:

I only asked...because I'm dry as dirt and honestly didn't know. I'm assuming you can just leave it laying around anywhere?

At this point, I really don't know where to run with it, because the argument is tainted by logic...but: MD considers alcoholic beverages more dangerous than rifles and shotguns. Any 18 year old who can pass a background check can buy a long gun, but still has to wait 3 years for a beer. (Their solution would be to raise the age for long guns to 21, I'm sure ). If we really want to push public safety into the home...

Has the house version of this been heard? I'd be really tempted to go "favorable with ammendments" with the ammendment being the inclusion of, "and alcoholic beverages" after every time the word "firearm" appears. It would be a stunt/bluff of sorts...but it might get some attention.

Admittedly, the alcohol part doesn't affect me...so it's easy for me to take a "fine, burn it ALL down" approach. I understand why everyone else may not be on board

ATF has been using so much of their resources to "F" with us, isn't it about time they start working the "T" and "A" as well?

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creativetradesman said:

My biggest question and concern is how will this be enforced? Is there a clause that gives LE permission to come into your home to verify if your being compliant or is this a close cousin of the red flag so someone will need to catch you and turn you in.

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mrbob1000 said:

It would likely be from an unrelated warrant or voluntary visit (do not ever volunteer) to get into your house in the first place and then tack the charges on. It leaves a huge window open for arbitrary and discretionary enforcement. Does the wealthy Annapolis resident have "safe" storage with their safe but the PG County resident doesn't with the same safe because the officer and prosecutor have differing views?

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mrbob1000 said:

It would likely be from an unrelated warrant or voluntary visit (do not ever volunteer) to get into your house in the first place and then tack the charges on. It leaves a huge window open for arbitrary and discretionary enforcement. Does the wealthy Annapolis resident have "safe" storage with their safe but the PG County resident doesn't with the same safe because the officer and prosecutor have differing views?

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Gilo said:

I feel like they are making common sense a law. minors should never have access to your guns, even if they know how to use them. There has to be some cases where minors got a hold of their parent's guns, just as there were cases of people using hair dryers in the tub. Lock your toys up.

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LeadSled1 said:

Could is always the wrong word in a law. It is way too open. If you have a dial safe your juvenile could see you put the combo in and then could access your firearms. Does that mean all safes need biometric locks? Your juvenile could go Adam Lanza and kill you, then could use your dead finger to open the safe. The word “could” does not belong in a law.

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