- Jul 29, 2014
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People love to bitch and moan.
HQL denied to to Medical Marijuana Card?
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They have pills for that now...
I have some in my lunch box with my 9mm.
- Jul 29, 2014
- 49,992
I might come Trick or Treating your way come October...
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Chumm
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I just took and HQL course this past weekend and this subject came up, almost inadvertently. It made me straighten up because I had a valid MM card up until January of this year. I let it lapse because my back pain (the reason for the script) had lessened over time and I hadn't had the need to use in many months. It never occurred to me that the prescription would be cause to deny my right to own a hand gun. I know now this had been posted on this site many times, but I also didn't know about this site until today.
I've read two opinions about what comes next. I can wait until next January and apply, or I may be excluded from owning at all until the Feds reclassify marijuana to be something other than a Class I drug. Does anyone know as fact which it is? Can someone clarify for me if this is a federal requirement or is it just for Maryland?
I just read the form 77R. It doesn't ask if I have ever had a MM card. It only asks if I am a addict or habitual user of an controlled substance. I can truthfully answer no to that question. Why is this even an issue then?
I currently own two long guns, am I legal with those? I've had them forever, one was my fathers that he bought new in 1932. I imagine I could find myself a handgun, but don't think I want to own one illegally.
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- Feb 17, 2011
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First I would talk to a lawyer, and secondly I would not have put any possible incriminating evidence on the internet. Thirdly I would have done more research before going down the rabbit hole that medical marijuana is. Part of me believes that Dems decriminialized it so people would voluntarily make themselves prohibited from firearms.
Maryland checks to see if you have a MJ card. In the past, they have required people to give them up for a period of 1 year to get a HQL/buy a handgun.
Quite a few of us argued (speculated) almost immediately that the MJ card would be a disqualifier. As long as the question is still on the form and the Fed.gov does not change the classification, a person with a card is by default an habitual user. Also that the "D"s would use it for backdoor gun control.
Chumm
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Well I'm not you unfortunately, or? I don't think Dems were thinking along those lines
Chumm
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Well I'm not you unfortunately, or? I don't think Dems were thinking along those lines. Don't give them that much credit. Why didn't Trumps ATF Director change that written policy?
Chumm
Member
Well I'm not you unfortunately, or? I don't think Dems were thinking along those lines. Don't give them that much credit. Why didn't Trumps ATF Director change that written policy?
A change that would allow people who regularly use illegal drugs to pass that federal background check is too much without legislative movement in that direction.
If it is removed by federal legislation as a class 1, you’d then be good unless the state further restricts.
In general habitual use bans you within the last year. Though I think convictions it is 3 years? I forget on that one (takes two DUIs to be considered habitual. Not sure on public intoxication. That might also be considered evidence of a habitual user)
In general habitual use bans you within the last year. Though I think convictions it is 3 years? I forget on that one (takes two DUIs to be considered habitual. Not sure on public intoxication. That might also be considered evidence of a habitual user)
Chumm
Member
Well I'm not you unfortunately, or? I don't think Dems were thinking along those lines. Don't give them that much credit. Why didn't Trumps ATF Director change that written policy?
I's sure this has been discussed to death but I will add my insignificant thought to it. I don't think the form needs to be changed at all. I do think that simply because someone has a MM, it doesn't make them a habitual user. It's that simple. I bet I used less than 6 times in 2021, and none this year. Yet I am a habitual user by the ATF's thinking. Yet I have to get a dui thrice for them to think I'm a drunkard, when we all know anyone who who is caught twice has not been caught 10's or hundreds of times. That reasoning is a stretch in my tiny brain.
I am sure Hunter Biden thinks he was a recreational user
The overwhelming majority of people with a medical marijuana card got a doctor to sign off on one because of a stated need to use it regularly, as medicine. Most, of course, are nudge-nudge-wink-wink routine recreational users. You're the exception, not the rule. You're barking up the wrong tree, thinking that it's the ATF that's the issue. There are untold numbers or other agencies and private employers who all use the same standard (for employment, equipment use, security clearances and more) because the drug those people want to use are considered illegal. ATF is simply using the same standard as countless other entities. If you want it to change, you need to get the national legislature to treat the drug as not a drug.
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1. Your instructor let you down by not providing a comprehensive presentation of Maryland's gun laws.
2. Visit 2A Maryland, join the email list.
3. Sign up for 2A Maryland's Zoom II meeting with the Maryland State Police on 8/4
4. Download the pdf of Maryland Gun Laws from 2A Maryland's website.
- Apr 26, 2012
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If you think the Ds didn't use this as a back door to firearms prohibition, your tinfoil hat isn't on tight enough.
This right here.
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