Got GPS? Paper maps are still solid

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  • Blaster229

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    Sep 14, 2010
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    Easier mentally to add or subtract 200, then subtract or add 20.



    So, 090. Add 200 = 290, subtract 20 = 270.



    045 + 200 = 245- 20 = 225.



    284 - 200 = 084 + 20 = 104
    To get a back azimuth? How is more math easier?
    Oh. Common core.
     

    pbharvey

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    I keep a full US map in each vehicle.
    Doubles as fire starter if you end up in a ditch and need to boil some snow coffee.
    I love reading maps. I will sit down and read them like a book.
    My kids want nothing to do with maps or directions, just give me the address Dad.
     

    marko

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    I have Gazeteers for PA, VA and WV in the truck because the GPS doesn't work in a lot of the places I end up.

    THOSE are serious maps. I love reading maps - always have. We had a 'Map Skills' class in elementary scchool, 5th grade.
    1973 ish.

    You used to be able to buy Topos cheap from USGS. Good thing to have in your AO.
     

    JoeRinMD

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    Jul 18, 2008
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    AA County
    I love reading maps. I will sit down and read them like a book.
    My kids want nothing to do with maps or directions, just give me the address Dad.

    I've always loved maps and do the same. Interestingly, my daughter, 25, is exactly the same. She loves old-fashioned map-reading.

    JoeR
     

    Pinecone

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    To get a back azimuth? How is more math easier?

    Easier to do in your head that adding or subtracting an odd number.

    Quick, what is the reverse of 352?

    Which is easier, dealing with subtracting 180, which means you have to take 1 from the 3, and make it 15 - 8. Or subtracting 3 - 2, and adding 5 + 2, for 172.
     

    Blaster229

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    Easier to do in your head that adding or subtracting an odd number.

    Quick, what is the reverse of 352?

    Which is easier, dealing with subtracting 180, which means you have to take 1 from the 3, and make it 15 - 8. Or subtracting 3 - 2, and adding 5 + 2, for 172.
    As always, you're right again.

    Looks like you're home for a few days.
     

    dblas

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    Apr 6, 2011
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    That's not what Mrs. GnR says!

    Thanks, you're too kind.

    My cut and paste (old-school definition) skills were learned in kindergarten. Learned to make map books in the Army. Turns out, you can go pretty far with just kindergarten and Army training - who knew? :D

    Some claim they are the same....:D

    Hope you are doing well my friend.
     

    dblas

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    Apr 6, 2011
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    Easier to do in your head that adding or subtracting an odd number.

    Quick, what is the reverse of 352?

    Which is easier, dealing with subtracting 180, which means you have to take 1 from the 3, and make it 15 - 8. Or subtracting 3 - 2, and adding 5 + 2, for 172.

    It depends on how much it was ingrained in you from the various training.

    For some +/- 180 is automatic.
     

    Mark75H

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    Sep 25, 2011
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    Outside the Gates
    Easier to do in your head that adding or subtracting an odd number.

    Quick, what is the reverse of 352?

    Which is easier, dealing with subtracting 180, which means you have to take 1 from the 3, and make it 15 - 8. Or subtracting 3 - 2, and adding 5 + 2, for 172.

    It depends on how much it was ingrained in you from the various training.

    For some +/- 180 is automatic.

    In my brain, the opposite of 8° west of N is 8° east of S, 180-8=172
     

    KJackson

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    Years ago I took a topographical map reading class for my job. I still have the materials downstairs. Time for a refresher.
     

    Blaster229

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    Sep 14, 2010
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    No, taught by the USAF.



    Try it. It is easier to do in your head.
    I'm standing in the middle of the woods with all the time in the world going back to where I came from. I can subtract or add while drinking some warm canteen water and eating a Cliff bar.
     

    Blacksmith101

    Grumpy Old Man
    Jun 22, 2012
    22,163
    I’m the same way. I can navigate cities (on foot) very well. Roads? I’m hosed.

    The only trouble I ever had with navigating in cities or country was after taking the subway in DC when I came back up from traveling underground I would sometimes head in the wrong direction but in DC if you go a block, and know how DC is laid out, you know if your direction is wrong. As soon as I re-calibrated my internal compass I was fine.
     

    Pinecone

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    Feb 4, 2013
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    I'm standing in the middle of the woods with all the time in the world going back to where I came from. I can subtract or add while drinking some warm canteen water and eating a Cliff bar.

    True. You are moving at 1 - 4 mph. Even in the A-10 I was moving at over 250 MPH, and needed to do it.
     

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