Anything Spl about this MN 91/30

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  • kazan182

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    Aug 3, 2011
    510
    I am in the process of liquidating some 91/30's, SKS's, etc. and need some input. Having bought these years ago I can't find the docs I had that helped me ID (special stuff) that would help access value.

    I know it's a Tula, MO Dated 34/52. Imp marked. With cleaning rod. It has the screws in the sling slots and proper barrel bands that I can tell. All numbers match except for the buttplate which is a strike through. Anything else I am missing? Thanks
     

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    h2u

    Village Idiot
    Jul 8, 2007
    6,693
    South County
    Just for laughs, check the sides of the receiver for welded over mount holes. Three on each side - above the woodline. In ‘34, Tula hadn’t really started stamping snipers.

    Minuscule chance, but takes a couple of seconds to check.
     

    Buster Brown

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    Aug 11, 2019
    311
    Southern MD
    As tallen702 stated, the m.o. stamped use to be thought to be a ministry of defense rifle but later was found to be just a refurbishment mark. So 5 or so years ago I'd say it was worth more than an average 91/30 but now..no. Very common tula year. Unlike a finnish Mosin, little to no chance thats an antique receiver. Not even an imperial eagle stamp.

    Weird thing is a tula hex in general should bring good money but alot of young new collectors would pay more for a wartime round receiver with rough machining.
     

    babalou

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    Aug 12, 2013
    16,016
    Glenelg
    I have a 1932 Tula without that MO mark. Only a small square or something..purchased from a crate at Chantilly a number of years ago. Purchased non corrosive ammo and still have not shot it......yet. :)
     

    kazan182

    Active Member
    Aug 3, 2011
    510
    Just for laughs, check the sides of the receiver for welded over mount holes. Three on each side - above the woodline. In ‘34, Tula hadn’t really started stamping snipers.

    Minuscule chance, but takes a couple of seconds to check.

    Nope. No welded mount holes. Thanks for the idea though.
     

    kazan182

    Active Member
    Aug 3, 2011
    510
    How does everyone feel about counter bored barrels? I know to be fully collectable many collectors don't want it cb'd. But for accuracy, it was done during refurbishment. Thoughts?
     

    John from MD

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    May 12, 2005
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    If done right, it makes the rifle as accurate as it was. I had the honor of shooting years ago with a Russian Army Chief Armorer. While the exterior of MN's is rough, the rifles were expected to make the equivalent of 1.3 inches at 100 yards or they were sent back for rework. As many know, the Finnish reworks were some of the best shooters out there but, from a battle rifle standpoint, the Russian MN's weren't slouches.
     

    kazan182

    Active Member
    Aug 3, 2011
    510
    If done right, it makes the rifle as accurate as it was. I had the honor of shooting years ago with a Russian Army Chief Armorer. While the exterior of MN's is rough, the rifles were expected to make the equivalent of 1.3 inches at 100 yards or they were sent back for rework. As many know, the Finnish reworks were some of the best shooters out there but, from a battle rifle standpoint, the Russian MN's weren't slouches.

    I have two of the Finn's (both 39's) I am going to part with as well I think. And yup, they are very nice rifles indeed.
     

    Alphabrew

    Binary male Lesbian
    MDS Supporter
    Jan 27, 2013
    40,749
    Woodbine
    Yes, its a Tula double date MO with hex receiver. I wouldn't call that common. Very collectible IMHO.
     

    John from MD

    American Patriot
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    May 12, 2005
    22,730
    Socialist State of Maryland
    Anyone who owns a hex receiver Mosin should look at the bottom of the tang for a date. I have had quite a few go through my hands that had dates earlier than 1898. As antiques, you can transfer them anyway you want and they are probably worth more.
     

    tallen702

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    In the boonies of MoCo
    As for CB'ed crowns, I personally don't mind them, but some folks do. To me, it means there's a better chance of it grouping well. If I'm looking for a safe queen, I won't take a CB. But if I'm looking for something to enjoy? I'm all about it.
     

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