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  • Melnic

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    Dec 27, 2012
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    A member there ....

    Smoke4320....his stuff is really good and works great
    he's a great guy.
    Use his stuff and MiHec molds

    Try here he updated 3.18.21

    http://castboolits.gunloads.com/sho...-DT-or-Spraying-bullets&highlight=powder+coat


    -Rock

    Some of those color numbers are the same that powderbuythepound uses. I think they all buy from one source to get the powder in bulk then sell in smaller quantities and its the same stuff. YellowGreen is the same green I use from PBP.
     

    Melnic

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    Bump.

    Guzma, or anyone else ,please add to the thread with any powders you recently have purchased or are not already posted and how they worked for you.
     

    guzma393

    Active Member
    Jan 15, 2020
    736
    Severn, MD
    I currently use Powder by the pound super durable wet black and Eastwood lime green as my powder coats.

    Eastwood lime green is a great powder in my books. I only got a couple ounces left of the stuff.

    My first powder was pbtp super durable wet black. By itself, it seems to run a bit thin to my liking.

    To alleviate this, I experimented mixing the two together and it seems to work well.

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    Archeryrob

    Undecided on a great many things
    Mar 7, 2013
    3,062
    Washington Co. - Fairplay
    I used power by the pound and Eastwood and they seemed fine to me. I kept my powder in the basement and garage. My intial trouble with powder couldn't get it to stick. It was a Powder by the pound powder but it was not their fault. I probably did not tighten the lid and moisture got into it in the summer. I have not tried it again since dropping desiccant packs into it. They have been in 6 months and I'll have to test it.

    Know your relative humidity where you store it and possible use desiccant packs to prevent it holding moisture. I had a awful time and it was just humidity in my powder and it would not stick.
     

    John from MD

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    May 12, 2005
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    I used power by the pound and Eastwood and they seemed fine to me. I kept my powder in the basement and garage. My intial trouble with powder couldn't get it to stick. It was a Powder by the pound powder but it was not their fault. I probably did not tighten the lid and moisture got into it in the summer. I have not tried it again since dropping desiccant packs into it. They have been in 6 months and I'll have to test it.

    Know your relative humidity where you store it and possible use desiccant packs to prevent it holding moisture. I had a awful time and it was just humidity in my powder and it would not stick.

    Humidity control is number one in powder coating. In the summer, the only time I can PC is if I turn on both dehumidifiers in the basement and let them run half a day to get the humidity low enough for static electricity to work with the powder.
     

    guzma393

    Active Member
    Jan 15, 2020
    736
    Severn, MD
    Humidity control is number one in powder coating. In the summer, the only time I can PC is if I turn on both dehumidifiers in the basement and let them run half a day to get the humidity low enough for static electricity to work with the powder.
    I knew humidity is definitely a factor, but could there be some powder coats that are more humidity sensitive than others? I never really bat an eye when powder coating with the eastwood lime green stuff, even after humid summer rainy days.

    As for Archer's case, that might be an extreme situation where a substantial amount of moisture was absorbed into that powder.

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    John from MD

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    I knew humidity is definitely a factor, but could there be some powder coats that are more humidity sensitive than others? I never really bat an eye when powder coating with the eastwood lime green stuff, even after humid summer rainy days.

    As for Archer's case, that might be an extreme situation where a substantial amount of moisture was absorbed into that powder.

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    Most definitely only I have not spent the time and money to find them out. The green stuff that Melnic uses works great for me so I just stick with it. I played with several PBTP powders in the beginning but didn't really keep notes.
     

    Archeryrob

    Undecided on a great many things
    Mar 7, 2013
    3,062
    Washington Co. - Fairplay
    I knew humidity is definitely a factor, but could there be some powder coats that are more humidity sensitive than others? I never really bat an eye when powder coating with the eastwood lime green stuff, even after humid summer rainy days.

    I never did much with the PBTP powder that did not work except open it to admire it and leave it closed in the garage. This was my first experiment with powder coating bullets. I did jigs for years but heated them and swished in powder and hung on the toaster oven rack to cook once they were all done. I heated bullets once and tried that and let me tell you melting a glob of powder coated bullets, that all stuck together because they were hot, back down in the pot is a F'ing mess!!! :D My first experiments powder coating bullets was like a fish out of water flopping on the shore line. I was amazed how bad I could mess something up. :D

    Where do you do you powder coating? I tried in the garage and failed. The basement holds 50% relative humidity except when the wood stove is running and maybe hits 40 or 42. Right now The wood stove had it at 31 in the kitchen. Air conditioning help lower it also. I get my dog towel and spread them on the kitchen island. Heat the toaster oven in the garage. Dump and mix the bullets over the towels, put down the cardboard reclaim tray and baking mesh pan, dump bullets shake and over cheap pan to the toaster over to bake. I do this while the wife went shopping, clean up and roll the towel up and walk off the patio and shake them out.
     

    John from MD

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    Where do you do you powder coating? I tried in the garage and failed. The basement holds 50% relative humidity except when the wood stove is running and maybe hits 40 or 42. Right now The wood stove had it at 31 in the kitchen. Air conditioning help lower it also. I get my dog towel and spread them on the kitchen island. Heat the toaster oven in the garage. Dump and mix the bullets over the towels, put down the cardboard reclaim tray and baking mesh pan, dump bullets shake and over cheap pan to the toaster over to bake. I do this while the wife went shopping, clean up and roll the towel up and walk off the patio and shake them out.

    I use the basement as I have two dehumidifiers down there if I need them. However, I try to make my bullets in the spring and summer and then powder coat them in the fall when the humidity is less. I bake them in the yard so there are no fumes about.

    BTW, I have found that, after applying the powder to the bullets, you can leave them stacked for even a couple of weeks until you can bake them. I have not noticed any issues with the paint falling off when doing this.
     

    guzma393

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    Jan 15, 2020
    736
    Severn, MD
    I never did much with the PBTP powder that did not work except open it to admire it and leave it closed in the garage. This was my first experiment with powder coating bullets. I did jigs for years but heated them and swished in powder and hung on the toaster oven rack to cook once they were all done. I heated bullets once and tried that and let me tell you melting a glob of powder coated bullets, that all stuck together because they were hot, back down in the pot is a F'ing mess!!! :D My first experiments powder coating bullets was like a fish out of water flopping on the shore line. I was amazed how bad I could mess something up. :D

    Where do you do you powder coating? I tried in the garage and failed. The basement holds 50% relative humidity except when the wood stove is running and maybe hits 40 or 42. Right now The wood stove had it at 31 in the kitchen. Air conditioning help lower it also. I get my dog towel and spread them on the kitchen island. Heat the toaster oven in the garage. Dump and mix the bullets over the towels, put down the cardboard reclaim tray and baking mesh pan, dump bullets shake and over cheap pan to the toaster over to bake. I do this while the wife went shopping, clean up and roll the towel up and walk off the patio and shake them out.
    I typically powdercoat outside, as I always wind up spilling a tad bit of the stuff when sifting the excess off the bullets.

    I go inside for the 'shake' part so I don't disturb my neighbors though. I didn't realize how loud it was until my wife told me she can clearly hear it from the patio to her car haha

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    John from MD

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    I typically powdercoat outside, as I always wind up spilling a tad bit of the stuff when sifting the excess off the bullets.

    I go inside for the 'shake' part so I don't disturb my neighbors though. I didn't realize how loud it was until my wife told me she can clearly hear it from the patio to her car haha

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    If you lay a sheet of aluminum foil on the floor, you can shake the tray and recover the paint.
     

    85MikeTPI

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    Jul 19, 2014
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    Ceciltucky
    [I replied to this before the software upgrade, but I guess it was eaten?]

    I'm starting to look for an oven,etc to start PC. In post#5 there's a conventional toaster oven and a pan with copper sheet with all the rounds laid out nicely. In post#9, there a basket of rounds in a "mass", all touching. Is that "mass" what gets cooked in the bowl? And if so, won't all the boolits come out connected together? Just trying to get it straight in my head.. Thanks!
     

    guzma393

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    Jan 15, 2020
    736
    Severn, MD
    [I replied to this before the software upgrade, but I guess it was eaten?]

    I'm starting to look for an oven,etc to start PC. In post#5 there's a conventional toaster oven and a pan with copper sheet with all the rounds laid out nicely. In post#9, there a basket of rounds in a "mass", all touching. Is that "mass" what gets cooked in the bowl? And if so, won't all the boolits come out connected together? Just trying to get it straight in my head.. Thanks!

    That "mass" gets cooked in the bowl. After curing (oven in 10-15 minutes at 400F), the "mass" is then taken out of the oven and quenched in a pan filled with water (submerged). This immediate cooling effect allegedly hardens the lead a bit and rapidly cools the powder coating.

    This causes the bonds from the boolits to "contract/weaken", resulting in 95% of the powder coated boolits from separating from each other without damaging the powder coat. The other <5% that are connected are easily separated with your hands/putting the the whole cooled "mass" in a towel and gently and continuously dropping them on a wooden platform (similar to breaking ice) to separate them. This method is used for mass powder coating boolits and is completely acceptable for functional powder coated boolits.

    Drawback to this method it will result in "imperfect" looking powder coated boolits (tiny/trace impressions left from the separations). This is 100% cosmetic and should not affect the functional performance of the PC boolits.
     

    John from MD

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    I just take my tray out of the oven, leave it on the garage floor as I reload the oven and then whack the cooling tray on the floor and it separates all the bullets that were touching. Sometimes little spots of lead are showing but IT MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO DIFFERENCE in performance or leading. The bullets shoot as if they are totally coated.
     

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