questions about " handgun exempt training license"

efeng9622 · Jan 23, 2022

I have some questions about applying "Handgun exempt training
license ".
1) " Weapon Exemption information", should I put one of my handgun which was bought before 10/1/2013 on there? I still keep the original receipt but it is a little bit old.
2) Will $50 for License fee be charged no matter issued or rejected?
3) Is the license good for 10 years ?

Thanks.

Occam · Jan 23, 2022

efeng9622 said:
I have some questions about applying "Handgun exempt training
license ".
1) " Weapon Exemption information", should I put one of my handgun which was bought before 10/1/2013 on there? I still keep the original receipt but it is a little bit old.
2) Will $50 for License fee be charged no matter issued or rejected?
3) Is the license good for 10 years ?

Thanks.

Presuming you're talking about Maryland's HQL. Yes, if you own (in Maryland) a handgun you purchased before that date, you can provide a make/model/serial number that will match the records MSP has from that transfer. That will get you around the training requirement.

But you still have to do the prints, submit the application, and pay the fee.

And yes, good for ten years (or until the right court case finally puts a stake through the HQL's heart and buries it like the blood-drinking freedom vampire it is).

JRisBundyboyz · Jan 23, 2022

The above answer I was informed is correct.

I don’t want to hijack but I had a card to carry a handgun on duty, card now expired and sold all pistols. I was informed because I qualified through MSP instructor I was exempt from training requirements.

Any ideas?

dontpanic · Jan 23, 2022

efeng9622 said:
I have some questions about applying "Handgun exempt training
license ".
1) " Weapon Exemption information", should I put one of my handgun which was bought before 10/1/2013 on there? I still keep the original receipt but it is a little bit old.
2) Will $50 for License fee be charged no matter issued or rejected?
3) Is the license good for 10 years ?

Thanks.

They don't need your receipt. They just need the serial #.

Pro tip. You can buy a AR lower without an HQL and then use it to get the training exemption for your HQL. Same for C&R handguns

rseymorejr · Jan 23, 2022

Another rule of thumb is to use a handgun serial number that they already have a record of.

DC-W · Jan 23, 2022

All firearms-related fees paid to the state are non-refundable.

Threeband · Jan 23, 2022

dontpanic said:
They don't need your receipt. They just need the serial #.

Pro tip. You can buy a AR lower without an HQL and then use it to get the training exemption for your HQL. Same for C&R handguns

rseymorejr said:
Another rule of thumb is to use a handgun serial number that they already have a record of.

Other alternatives include:

Buy a Curio and Relic eligible handgun. C&R handguns do not require an HQL, but tge serial number/proof of possession will exempt you from training.
C&R handguns include any and all which are 50 years old and older, as well as a specific few which are younger.

Buy a "blackpowder" cap and ball revolver, and fill out a "Voluntary Registration" on it.

I confess this is my own idea, but I would love to see someone do it. A cap and ball revolver is not regulated as a firearm, so anyone can buy one with no paperwork, yet they are handguns and they have serial numbers. I have no doubt the MSP would be delighted to "register" one for you. Don't tell them you plan to use it for HQL training exemption though until after it comes back "Not Disapproved."

Biggfoot44 · Jan 23, 2022

Or use your Hunter Safety Card. If you don't have one , take the Texas online class .

efeng9622 · Jan 24, 2022

@Occam I done this afternoon.

Occam said:
Presuming you're talking about Maryland's HQL. Yes, if you own (in Maryland) a handgun you purchased before that date, you can provide a make/model/serial number that will match the records MSP has from that transfer. That will get you around the training requirement.

But you still have to do the prints, submit the application, and pay the fee.

And yes, good for ten years (or until the right court case finally puts a stake through the HQL's heart and buries it like the blood-drinking freedom vampire it is).

I done the application this afternoon, printed some files, summited the application on line and paid the fee, the status is " Completed=application in review with review officer .How long does it usually take to approve? I heard they will send the license by online .

Occam · Jan 24, 2022

efeng9622 said:
I done the application this afternoon, printed some files, summited the application on line and paid the fee, the status is " Completed=application in review with review officer .How long does it usually take to approve? I heard they will send the license by online .

Happily, my first (and one hopes, only - come on law suit!) experience with the HQL had my permit in hand (an actual plastic card - how quaint!) right about 30 days. I suspect you're still in the one month neighborhood now, minus the couple days they no longer spend to produce and mail you a shiny new card.

You can spend those weeks shopping around for handguns! :-)

DC-W · Jan 24, 2022

I think they're moving a bit more quickly than 30 days, mercifully. I had a student who had his in less than a week recently.

Occam · Jan 24, 2022

DC-W said:
I think they're moving a bit more quickly than 30 days, mercifully. I had a student who had his in less than a week recently.

Well! That's ... strangely good news. Too good. Hmmm.

DC-W · Jan 24, 2022

Strangely good news would be no more HQL needed

Bob A · Jan 24, 2022

Submitted fees and fingerprints to MSP 12/21 evening; rec'd HQL email 1/5. So 11 working days, if they worked on 12/24 and 12/31. Or 2 weeks on the calendar.

I held out on principle as long as I could, but I needed the HQL to buy one of Rack&Roll's revolvers. Affection and nostalgia for the win.

I loathe MD's government.

jonnyl · Jan 24, 2022

Clarification question. Does the exemption need to be a regulated gun they have a decided of? If I moved into the state in the early 90's and owned a pistol at the time could I use that s/n#?

ted76 · Jan 24, 2022

jonnyl said:
Clarification question. Does the exemption need to be a regulated gun they have a decided of? If I moved into the state in the early 90's and owned a pistol at the time could I use that s/n#?

I wouldn't use a handgun that's not on their list of guns that you own. Your are better off buying a C&R or stripped AR15 lower receiver and using that for your exemption. :innocent0

rbird7282 · Jan 24, 2022

ted76 said:
I wouldn't use a handgun that's not on their list of guns that you own. Your are better off buying a C&R or stripped AR15 lower receiver and using that for your exemption.

Why not? IIRC, there’s nothing that says it had to be purchased in MD.

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JRisBundyboyz · Jan 24, 2022

ted76 said:
I wouldn't use a handgun that's not on their list of guns that you own. Your are better off buying a C&R or stripped AR15 lower receiver and using that for your exemption.

The stripped AR lower receiver does that really work?

ted76 · Jan 24, 2022

rbird7282 said:
Why not? IIRC, there’s nothing that says it had to be purchased in MD.

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No, but as of right now it is a legaly owned unregerstered handgun in this state. Just like handguns brought from a private seller before Oct. 1, 1996, or the handguns that you legaly owned if you moved into Maryland before Oct. 1, 2013.

River02 · Jan 24, 2022

JRisBundyboyz said:
The stripped AR lower receiver does that really work?

Yes

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