In just over a month 118 Red Flag PO’s

Occam said:

And shouldn't they? In an election between the two, you surely wouldn't want the more evil one, would you? I wouldn't.

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IDFInfantry said:

I spoke with a Montgomery County Police officer that has been on the force for a very long time. I had a few questions about this new Red Flag Law. We had a very nice discussion about it. I asked them how many of these ERPO’s have been filed in MoCo. They explained to me that a lot of them have. Much more than are claimed on that county map that has been posted here. I asked if they felt there were any issues with the new law as they saw it. They said yes but also gave counter stories where they went to a house for a domestic dispute and later found out that a husband shot their spouse so in a way they felt it’s a new tool for them to potentially save lives. I felt that they implied that this was now there go to option if they deemed necessary and also to err on the side of caution. I asked well if the person didn’t have a gun and were intent on killing their spouse wouldn’t they just find another way of carrying it out? I mean how many people have been stabbed to death or killed by blunt force trauma?? They said true but still felt it’s necessary to strip people of their rights and property just to be safe. I asked if any officers have refused to carry out these orders. They said no obviously. They explained that most of the time these ERPO’s are served by the Sheriffs office and in many cases they ask local law enforcement agencies for support. They seemed to understand how the law can and is being abused but there is nothing really they can do about it obviously. They basically told me just try not to piss anybody off. So you are guilty until proven innocent. Scary stuff. Not the country I remember growing up in. We are living in some very very strange times indeed.

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felt it’s necessary to strip people of their rights and property just to be safe.

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inkd said:

In some ways, yes, I would. More anything gets noticed quicker. People react to it quicker. People should demand change quicker.

Less evil is creeping and sneaky. Less evil puts the knife in your back while hugging you. More evil puts it in your chest while looking right at you.

All less evil does is delay the inevitable and reassure those who desire to be in power that anything is acceptable as long as it's done incrementally.

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ironpony said:

Someone's at my door this early? wtf! friggin %^^& **&) $$@^ %)!!~

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boothdoc said:

I see no way of regaining our rights a lot of times.

I also find it to be impossible to accept the loss.

The worst part is my children are being left this mess

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inkd said:

In some ways, yes, I would. More anything gets noticed quicker. People react to it quicker. People should demand change quicker.

Less evil is creeping and sneaky. Less evil puts the knife in your back while hugging you. More evil puts it in your chest while looking right at you.

All less evil does is delay the inevitable and reassure those who desire to be in power that anything is acceptable as long as it's done incrementally.

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inkd said:

In some ways, yes, I would. More anything gets noticed quicker. People react to it quicker. People should demand change quicker.

Less evil is creeping and sneaky. Less evil puts the knife in your back while hugging you. More evil puts it in your chest while looking right at you.

All less evil does is delay the inevitable and reassure those who desire to be in power that anything is acceptable as long as it's done incrementally.

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basscat said:

Sort of like the mob. You can either have both arms broke or one leg. Which do you choose? That's what we have to vote for in this state time and time again.

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ironpony said:

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." - Benjamin Franklin

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44man said:

I am afraid that the spark and fire that made America no longer burns.

People say this isn’t the America they grew up in

Now I say these aren’t the Americans I grew up with.

The VAST majority no longer questions authority, they just go along with it “ until a higher authority steps in”

Hogan and the MGA could pass a law this session calling for confiscation of firearms and many here will say it’s ok, let’s wait on the Supreme Court to say otherwise so go ahead and give the nice cop your guns and later on when it gets worked out you’ll get them back.

Listening to many , if not most, here I fear md is lost, all I can hope for now is that those in free America will hold the line before the 2a is lost

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44man said:

Hogan and the MGA could pass a law this session calling for confiscation of firearms and many here will say it’s ok, let’s wait on the Supreme Court to say otherwise so go ahead and give the nice cop your guns and later on when it gets worked out you’ll get them back.

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ironpony said:

Don't you mean last session?! Thread title says 118 and possibly over 200 by now!

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