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  • John from MD

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    If anyone is using their PCP air rifle for thin skinned rodent control, you should seriously think about trying slugs. I bought mine from a guy on Long Island who makes them himself. His business is called AVS (I forget what it stands for).

    When I decided to try slugs, I started calling reviewing all the data I could get and one thing I found was this guy did a workup and video of a .25 Avenger. Since I have a .25 Avenger, it was like striking gold. I asked a million questions and he answered and gave me some suggestions. While they all worked in my gun, one suggested slug is as accurate as a target grade pellet.

    After being bored by how accurate (out to 75 yards) these slugs were, I decided to eliminate some of my wire, roof, window eating fluffy tailed rats. These guys are about 2 years old and know my movements and are usually gone before I get outside. If my wife opens the door, they just stand there and chuckle. If I go out, they hi tail it out of range pronto. Not this time.

    The foxes got a two fer and they were already gutted. The 38 gn slug expanded inside and dumped all of their energy. The tree rats were DRT with on the run body shots. :party29: Hell, I don't even have this tuned for high power and won't until spring.

    I think slugs will also be a game changer in .22 as well. The will extend your range for sure.
     

    temccoy

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    I am shooting a PCP air gun, your basic Benjamin Maurader. I am very happy with it. How are slugs different from pellets?
     

    John from MD

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    I am shooting a PCP air gun, your basic Benjamin Maurader. I am very happy with it. How are slugs different from pellets?

    They are more aerodynamic and therefore, carry further. They also are hollow pointed and expand really well in flesh. While there are pellets that are hollow pointed, it cuts down on their range. These wouldn't be something that you shoot paper with as that would be a waste of money.

    These are the slugs I use.

    https://avsslugs.com/faq-frequently-asked-questions/
     

    John from MD

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    John,
    Thanks, good info. I'm not running a PCP so am curious enough to test the lighter .22's in my Nitro Venom.

    Did the PCP thing and it wasn't for me.

    I don't know If I would try slugs in a break barrel. They do have more friction and you may wind up with stuck slugs. Easy to push out but it would be a waste of money. If you want something for pests, try polymags. They are pretty deadly and will shoot out of break barrels with no problem.
     

    ohen cepel

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    I don't know If I would try slugs in a break barrel. They do have more friction and you may wind up with stuck slugs. Easy to push out but it would be a waste of money. If you want something for pests, try polymags. They are pretty deadly and will shoot out of break barrels with no problem.

    Thanks! Was pondering if they would work or not given the power of my break barrel. I have been happy with the Polymags so may just stick with them and some bit heavy for caliber pellets that the rifle likes.
     

    Vic

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    John, How are the slugs on air consumption? I have shot slugs out of my 45 Texan. Though most bullets shoot pretty good I have one set I tried that were hollow point boat tales. They shot pretty well, but used a ton of air to launch. I could get three good shots with standard 350 grain slugs, but the HP bullets were two and the second was just adequate. So I stuck with the standard bullets. Just curious. I think that extra mass and there shape would make them inefficient to shoot.
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    John from MD

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    John, How are the slugs on air consumption? I have shot slugs out of my 45 Texan. Though most bullets shoot pretty good I have one set I tried that were hollow point boat tales. They shot pretty well, but used a ton of air to launch. I could get three good shots with standard 350 grain slugs, but the HP bullets were two and the second was just adequate. So I stuck with the standard bullets. Just curious. I think that extra mass and there shape would make them inefficient to shoot.
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    Since it's too cold and windy to do any serious work, I really can't say for sure. I have set the regulator to 2500 and adjusted the scope for 50 yards. From what I see on the gauge, the concave base slugs are not using much more than the JSB pellets in the same range. I know from my research, most testers don't recommend boat tail slugs unless you have a super powerful air rifle.
     

    Vic

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    What caliber pellet are you shooting? I looked at the site and it seems they have different calibers within the 25 cal spec. I have a 25 MRod and figure it shoots the same diameter as the Avenger. Just wondering. I usually use Predator Polymags on squirrel, very lethal. As I have told others, they ruin a squirrel.
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    John from MD

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    What caliber pellet are you shooting? I looked at the site and it seems they have different calibers within the 25 cal spec. I have a 25 MRod and figure it shoots the same diameter as the Avenger. Just wondering. I usually use Predator Polymags on squirrel, very lethal. As I have told others, they ruin a squirrel.
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    Several pellet/slug manufacturers make pellets/slugs with slightly different diameter. My Prod likes. 5.52 MM JSB 18 gn pellets. My Avenger .25, so far likes JSB 33 gn 6.35 pellets. I have a sample pack of AVS slugs but have not done any serious testing with them. The slug diameters I am trying are .2513 and .253. The sample pack has four different weights in it. I picked like from 32 to 40.
     

    John from MD

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    I agree. He is cheaper than AVS but it appears he only has flat base. Flat base is less forgiving that cupped base. If the base has any damage at all, the slug will not fly true. On cup based slugs, the thinner skirt expands into the bore and there is less chance for gas blow by.
     

    BigTinBoat

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    I agree. He is cheaper than AVS but it appears he only has flat base. Flat base is less forgiving that cupped base. If the base has any damage at all, the slug will not fly true. On cup based slugs, the thinner skirt expands into the bore and there is less chance for gas blow by.

    John - not sure where you are getting this information, but Nick does all different bases. In fact it seems he majority are "dish"
    https://nielsenspecialtyammo.com/co...products/17-5-grain-375-count-22-cal-slug-nsa

    Here is a pic of the 12.5g .177 slugs that I just got
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    This taken from his write up about Swaging vs Casting

    What other advantages are there to swaging pellets over cast molds?

    Swaging offers a lot of flexibility over casting. We do have a die for each caliber but the same die can produce the lightest pellet we sell to the heavies pellet. It is done by adjusting the machine with the right amount of pressure and having the correct core for the chosen weight. We can also change punches to create different bases and noses. We can go from a round nose to a hollow point to a conical in a matter of minutes.

    We can also make our hollow point the exact same weight as a round nose. In a cast mold, when you place the pins in for the cavity of the hollow point .....
     

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