Hi I think that I made a mistake and order a stock instead of a brace. The all look so similar then after reading here I am fairly sure I goofed. So I am wondering if I can cut the stock that I bought in any way to make is a brace? I did a crud windows paint. I added white lines to make cut outs. I know I am new here but I've been reading a bunch and do respect your opinions. I hope the pic attachment loads?
self made pistol brace legal?(modified)
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I'm assuming you're using that on a pistol (barrel <16"). The potential legal consequences for possessing a short barreled rifle without a stamp are severe, if ATF was to consider that still a stock. I'd eat the cost and buy a real brace from a manufacturer that has submitted their design to ATF for acceptance as a pistol brace. NFA violations aren't something to take lightly.
Making that mod puts it in a very grey area legally, and I doubt anyone outside ATF's Technical Branch could give a (temporarily) definitive answer.
Making that mod puts it in a very grey area legally, and I doubt anyone outside ATF's Technical Branch could give a (temporarily) definitive answer.
randomuser
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following. I have my thoughts, but want to see what others say.
Im with this guy. The juice isn't worth the squeeze
Ammo Jon
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It wouldn’t be worth the repercussions. Keep it for a rifle build or sell it and get a brace. You put that on a pistol (modified or not) without a stamp and you’re toast.
GuitarmanNick
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If something as simple as adding a rubber pad to the back of an approved brace suddenly creates an SBR, modifying a stock and calling it a brace will most certainly an SBR and require a stamp.
Buy a real brace and save the headaches!
Buy a real brace and save the headaches!
Ammo Jon
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The design of a brace allows those of us with disability the ability to wrap it around our arms and brace it accordingly. The company that developed these braces have jumped through plenty of hoops for the approval, your DIY is still a stock and therefore you’d end up with an SBR without a stamp. I wouldn’t dare myself.
Negative Ghostrider---this is probably not the terrain you want to defend...
Nope...my vote
Ammo Jon
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Nobody is going to agree with you doing something that is illegal on a federal level.
DutchV
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A rubber crutch tip was an early solution, and it works fairly well. Costs maybe six bucks.
Do not pass go, do not collect $200.
While the law is vague and you may be able to defend succesfully in court, it aint worth the ride. ATF language is centered on the word "intent", to which that stock is "inteded" to be used as a stock and shouldered. Plus, I do not see a reasonable way that you can modify that to truly qualify as a brace. All the braces that I have seen are rubber on the sides, which wrap around your wrist pretty snuggly. It's clear by their design that they are intended to be used that way.
No offense, but this is one of the dumbest questions i've seen on this forum. Better safe than sorry, so kudos for asking. But seriously, just don't do it. The ATF has made a pretty clear stance on even lightly modifying your brace (split fix for example). So in what logic would modifying a stock to be a brace be something you might consider?
While the law is vague and you may be able to defend succesfully in court, it aint worth the ride. ATF language is centered on the word "intent", to which that stock is "inteded" to be used as a stock and shouldered. Plus, I do not see a reasonable way that you can modify that to truly qualify as a brace. All the braces that I have seen are rubber on the sides, which wrap around your wrist pretty snuggly. It's clear by their design that they are intended to be used that way.
No offense, but this is one of the dumbest questions i've seen on this forum. Better safe than sorry, so kudos for asking. But seriously, just don't do it. The ATF has made a pretty clear stance on even lightly modifying your brace (split fix for example). So in what logic would modifying a stock to be a brace be something you might consider?
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