Legal to carry

Stoveman said:

What's next, a loaded magazine is a loaded gun?

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knastera said:

Do you see anything that makes an exception for stopping along the way to an authorized place?

§ 4-203.
(a) (1) Except as provided in subsection (b) of this section, a person may not:

(i) wear, carry, or transport a handgun, whether concealed or open, on or about the person;

(ii) wear, carry, or knowingly transport a handgun, whether concealed or open, in a vehicle traveling on a road or parking lot generally used by the public, highway, waterway, or airway of the State;

(iii) violate item (i) or (ii) of this paragraph while on public school property in the State; or

(iv) violate item (i) or (ii) of this paragraph with the deliberate purpose of injuring or killing another person.

(2) There is a rebuttable presumption that a person who transports a handgun under paragraph (1)(ii) of this subsection transports the handgun knowingly.

(b) This section does not prohibit:

(1) the wearing, carrying, or transporting of a handgun by a person who is on active assignment engaged in law enforcement, is authorized at the time and under the circumstances to wear, carry, or transport the handgun as part of the person's official equipment, and is:

(i) a law enforcement official of the United States, the State, or a county or city of the State;

(ii) a member of the armed forces of the United States or of the National Guard on duty or traveling to or from duty;

(iii) a law enforcement official of another state or subdivision of another state temporarily in this State on official business;

(iv) a correctional officer or warden of a correctional facility in the State;

(v) a sheriff or full-time assistant or deputy sheriff of the State; or

(vi) a temporary or part-time sheriff's deputy;

(2) the wearing, carrying, or transporting of a handgun by a person to whom a permit to wear, carry, or transport the handgun has been issued under Title 5, Subtitle 3 of the Public Safety Article;

(3) the carrying of a handgun on the person or in a vehicle while the person is transporting the handgun to or from the place of legal purchase or sale, or to or from a bona fide repair shop, or between bona fide residences of the person, or between the bona fide residence and place of business of the person, if the business is operated and owned substantially by the person if each handgun is unloaded and carried in an enclosed case or an enclosed holster;

(4) the wearing, carrying, or transporting by a person of a handgun used in connection with an organized military activity, a target shoot, formal or informal target practice, sport shooting event, hunting, a Department of Natural Resources-sponsored firearms and hunter safety class, trapping, or a dog obedience training class or show, while the person is engaged in, on the way to, or returning from that activity if each handgun is unloaded and carried in an enclosed case or an enclosed holster;

(5) the moving by a bona fide gun collector of part or all of the collector's gun collection from place to place for public or private exhibition if each handgun is unloaded and carried in an enclosed case or an enclosed holster;

(6) the wearing, carrying, or transporting of a handgun by a person on real estate that the person owns or leases or where the person resides or within the confines of a business establishment that the person owns or leases;

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Rab1515 said:

I bolded it for you. Even if it was considered transport, your exempt if you have a w&c.

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GrimReaper said:

Please stop teaching

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Occam said:

The permit’s granting of the right to transport is utterly silent on whether stepping out of your vehicle for five minutes to pay for gas is any different than ducking into the post office for five minutes.

The law doesn’t say you can transport with a five minute break from your vehicle, but not a six minute break. It establishes no such boundaries beyond the one and only it actually lays out in plain language: you are exempted from the transport prohibition if you have a permit. Period. No distinction drawn between six or sixty minutes.

The car is going with me, it’s my transportation away from home. Everything that’s in it is being transported. The permit allows my handgun to be one of those things. If the law was intended to make the permit exemption apply for five minutes out of the vehicle but not fifty-five, there would be at least a hint of that intention/distinction. There is absolutely nothing, except the exception - with no time related qualifiers - in plain language.

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knastera said:

But you stop transporting it when you leave it unattended in the vehicle. Transporting entails moving something from one place to another. The W&C exception allows the permit holder to transport firearms anywhere (something unpermitted people can't do). It does not address effectively storing a firearm in a vehicle.

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knastera said:

I’m not willing to risk my students futures with anything I can’t show them in black and white.

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Rab1515 said:

Ok, so please cite MD's storage laws where it says you cannot store a firearm except in your home.

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Stoveman said:

And that's your problem. The Bill of Rights don't exist because they were written down on a piece of parchment, they existed before our founders codified them.



The Second Amendment doesn't grant the RKBA, it says that the right Shall Not be Infringed.



Is it legal for you to bang your wife? Why? Because you have an AG's written opinion or an FAQ response you can hang your hat on?

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knastera said:

If you read what I wrote, that is not the same argument. Maryland bans ALL transport apart from listed exceptions. If it is not listed in the exceptions, then I won't do it and I certainly won't teach it.

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Stoveman said:

And when you hammer that into the skulls of the noobs you create a situation where they feel uncomfortable carrying because you have scared them into not carrying which could get them killed.

Worst kind of instructor.

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Stoveman said:

But it is. Have you consulted with an attorney versed in MD firearm law?

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Stoveman said:

But it is. Have you consulted with an attorney versed in MD firearm law?

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knastera said:

Again, assumptions. There is a massive difference between telling students about transporting and carrying. This has NOTHING to do with wear and carry. As I’ve already told you, I encourage my carry students to carry wherever their permits allow.

Let me ask you an honest question. What do you know about teaching? How many certified classes have you taught? How much training have you received as an educator or an instructor? What qualifies you to make such assumptions?

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