Maryland Shall Issuse - Update - 3/06/12 - More on Woollard Case

Gray Peterson · Mar 6, 2012

TowsonTiger22 said:
I have a quick question. I have a restricted permit (can only carry at work). Could I just send a letter over to the MSP now, asking them to amend my permit to unrestricted? Would it be less of a waste of time than trying to apply for a separate permit?

I think you file a subsequent app. Patrick & Krucam can correct me.

Abacab · Mar 6, 2012

Gray Peterson said:
I think you file a subsequent app. Patrick & Krucam can correct me.

I believe the MSP FAQ indicates that you write a letter with your request and they will either approve it or deny it.

What happens with the currently active permits is a big question.

Chromantix · Mar 6, 2012

I joined and donated $50 to the cause. I should have done so a while ago but didn't really think about it, etc, etc...

Thanks to MSI for all their help - hope I can help a little too.

OH IT'S KINO · Mar 6, 2012

dlmcbm said:
I thought we did not want this...

Per his Facebook page.....

Michael Smigiel
I need everyone to keep calling or have your friends and neighbors call and demand immediate compliance with the Federal Judge's ruling by implementing HB-45. Your calls are making a differance. Call your TV and radio stations and write your local newspapers. It is not too late to be a major part of the victory for the Constitutional right to carry in Maryland.

This. Can someone please explain? I thought that with the decision ruled yesterday, we no longer want it implemented?

PJDiesel · Mar 6, 2012

Boondock Saint said:
I've refreshed the PayPal account every few minutes and I haven't yet seen less than two new donations.

Just shot (pun intended) my donation over. I'm gonna have some 'splaining to do when the wife sees the online banking after today!!

bys8 · Mar 6, 2012

Great job guys!!

Boondock Saint · Mar 6, 2012

PJDiesel said:
Just shot (pun intended) my donation over. I'm gonna have some 'splaining to do when the wife sees the online banking after today!!

You missed. Better fire again; I think your first shot went into the VP's beer fund.

Kidding, of course.

SuperMag · Mar 6, 2012

It's about time. I've applied.

mopar92 · Mar 6, 2012

Been a member of MSI. I'll send a donation Saturday when my check clears. You know what's awesome? The announcement was made Monday March 5th. My birthday is March 5th. I'm 20. I'm hoping by next year I can purchase two handguns, send in my MD Designated Collector thing, my C&R, and file my CCW permit.

Did no one else notice that it's Maryland Shall ISSUSE now?
Why the name change?

PJDiesel · Mar 6, 2012

Boondock Saint said:
You missed. Better fire again; I think your first shot went into the VP's beer fund.

$2,500 bucks buys a lot of beer!

Okay, maybe not $2,500,..... maybe just enough for one round.

OH IT'S KINO · Mar 6, 2012

dlmcbm said:
I thought we did not want this...

Per his Facebook page.....

Michael Smigiel
I need everyone to keep calling or have your friends and neighbors call and demand immediate compliance with the Federal Judge's ruling by implementing HB-45. Your calls are making a differance. Call your TV and radio stations and write your local newspapers. It is not too late to be a major part of the victory for the Constitutional right to carry in Maryland.

jsonkimz said:
This. Can someone please explain? I thought that with the decision ruled yesterday, we no longer want it implemented?

For anyone who was wondering this as well (from another thread):

gprimr1 said:
Here's how I understand it.

Judge Legg ruled that the Good and Substantial clause is unconstitutional. Unconstitutional laws are unenforceable even if they remain on the book.

HB-45 seeks to say "You are presumed to have a good and substantial reason unless the MSP proves otherwise." Delegate Smigiel says the only things they can use are other items in the statue, but HB-45 doesn't say that, he does and the MSP have said it'll be business as usual.

Effectively HB-45 gives new life to a part of the law found unconstitutional. Why would we even dream of reviving G&S after Judge Legg so elegantly killed it?

HB-45 also moots Judge Legg's ruling because it changes the law he ruled on. It would require filing a new case; and wasting 10s of thousands of dollars to do the whole same song and dance over again.

So I have no idea why Smigiel posted that direction???? :smack:

Boondock Saint · Mar 6, 2012

PJDiesel said:
$2,500 bucks buys a lot of beer!

Okay, maybe not $2,500,..... maybe just enough for one round.

Free rickshaw rides for a month for whoever drops $2,500. :thumbsup:

SkunkWerX · Mar 6, 2012

jsonkimz said:
For anyone who was wondering this as well (from another thread):

So I have no idea why Smigiel posted that direction????

He probably has a few staffers doing it. Everyone is running in numerous directions. We need to get good counsel on this/these issues, and proceed, in lock step.

The HB45-post-Woollard (other) thread is here: http://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=77829

Gundahar · Mar 6, 2012

Joined and donated. Make sure the lawyers get paid for this one ;-)

Gundahar

Sportstud4891 · Mar 7, 2012

$50.00 donated to MSI with the wife's approval. :thumbsup:

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