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Old November 16th, 2019, 02:55 AM #11
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If that's all that is wrong with the rifle, I'd keep it and not worry about it.
It's not a matching collectors item, so a few pits aren't going to hurt the value or operation and should be expected.

As others have mentioned, trying to work out a discount after getting it is usually not well received.
I wouldn't even mention it to the seller.

Additionally, opening up a GB trouble report before exhausting options to resolve it with the seller - especially since the seller is willing to provide a full refund including shipping - may not make him happy (and rightfully so). On the other hand those reports tend to go nowhere unless there's real blatant fraud involved which certainly isn't the case here.

If you do decide to send it back, it's very rare for someone to rip you off and not send the money. Make sure you have insurance in case the rifle is damaged on the way back though. Personally I'd use UPS vice USPS, and insure it for over $1k so it gets sent using their "high value" shipping stream (hand-carried vice thrown on the conveyor belts, stored in locked container overnight, signatures at each transfer point).
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Old November 16th, 2019, 03:43 PM #12
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Old November 16th, 2019, 03:46 PM #13
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Lessons learned after this. I ask the question but did not ask for the picture as I trusted the seller with 80 plus A+ rating but I was proven wrong. Next time, definitely ask for pictures.


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Always look at the pics. Ask for more pics if there are not a sufficient number to accurately evaluate the potential purchase. If the seller refuses, walk away! Look at seller feedback to get an idea of how reputable the seller is.
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Old November 16th, 2019, 03:47 PM #14
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S/N on the receiver dates back to 1942. But the receiver is with pitting which was not disclosed by the seller until I received the rifle.

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Was this a WW2 era rifle, or post war? I think Springfield made post war rifles too. $885 doesn't sound bad at all...

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Old November 16th, 2019, 03:50 PM #15
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It is not that I "Receiving something and then asking for a discount"

The seller did not disclosed the information that there are pitting on the receiver even I asked.

Asking for a discount is because:
1. shipping it back is time and effort consuming
2. there is a risk that I will not get any money back from the seller. Then what? Sue him? Really no time to do so


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If the seller wants to make it right and has offered you a full refund, take it and run. He has offered you an easy out.

Receiving something and then asking for a discount tends to pi$$ people off and make them uncooperative.
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Old November 16th, 2019, 03:53 PM #16
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Exactly. Fear is not getting the refund after ship the rifle back to the seller.

I have the seller's message admitting overlook the pitting was his fault. However, as you said, max I can get back from gunbroker.com is $400 and who know how long it is going to take


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I think the fear is the seller is offering to have him ship the gun back and then refund the money....


Fear would be shipping the rifle and never receive the refund.


Really there is not any way of protecting from that risk.

Gunbroker does have a buyers protection program, that covers you up to $400 ($500 with a $100 deductible) if you never received the item. It says though does not protect against dispute of condition or buyers remorse.


https://www.gunbroker.com/c/user/fraudclaimprocess/
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Old November 16th, 2019, 03:54 PM #17
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Where people usually go to find a escrow service?


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Maybe find an escrow service?
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Old November 16th, 2019, 03:55 PM #18
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Thanks for your comments!

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I know nothing about Garands, for openers.

Sounds like the seller is willing to make things right, a good sign.

Regarding pricing, I'd consider the average cost of a shooter-grade rifle in similar condition as a base price. Then add whatever percentage you personally feel the historical markings etc contribute to the piece. If the corrosion really hurts your heart, just return for refund. If you can live with it, or of the historical add-ons are particularly hard to come by, make an offer and see what the seller says.
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S/N on the receiver dates back to 1942. But the receiver is with pitting which was not disclosed by the seller until I received the rifle.
Honestly, I'd be ecstatic to have a WW2 M1 for that price. They are selling for a couple hundred more at CMP. I'd see if seller can refund a couple bucks (rather than pay for shipping) and be VERY happy with that great rifle!!!

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Honestly, I'd be ecstatic to have a WW2 M1 for that price. They are selling for a couple hundred more at CMP. I'd see if seller can refund a couple bucks (rather than pay for shipping) and be VERY happy with that great rifle!!!

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I agree. Try to find a Garand, even with that pitting, at a gun show for that price; you can't. Garands have become stupid expansive. So have M1 Carbines for that matter.
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