I fear it will get worse. Guilty until proven innocent
And all the public access and transparency of the FISC/Star Chamber. Thus it pleaseth the Crown.
I fear it will get worse. Guilty until proven innocent
HAHA....but according to some member who just left this thread it's all in case search open to the public.
The surrender all firearms in the Protective Order is different than the ERPO. They've had that clause in the Protective Orders for years and recently it's became a box that was checked all the time even if there is no allegations of firearms.
So I'm curious if someone requests an ERPO against you, are you notified ?? Obviously if it's granted you are notified at 5am with a knock on your door, but if its denied would you ever even know it happened???
So I'm curious if someone requests an ERPO against you, are you notified ?? Obviously if it's granted you are notified at 5am with a knock on your door, but if its denied would you ever even know it happened???
Good question. Also what would have happened if this poor guy did not answer the door at 5 am? Would the cops blow the door open and raid the house? Confiscating anything that looked dangerous? Im confused to what the police are required to do if this red flag thing is granted?So I'm curious if someone requests an ERPO against you, are you notified ?? Obviously if it's granted you are notified at 5am with a knock on your door, but if its denied would you ever even know it happened???
Good question. Also what would have happened if this poor guy did not answer the door at 5 am? Would the cops blow the door open and raid the house? Confiscating anything that looked dangerous? Im confused to what the police are required to do if this red flag thing is granted?
Thanks. I just did some research as well. It says whomever files the claim must list all guns that are owned and where they are kept in the house.The order itself is not a search warrant and thus, does not give police authority to forcibly enter a residence. If someone doesn’t answer the door, the officers will either keep waiting and knocking, or attempt service at another time.
The only time a search warrant comes in to play is if the respondent of the order does not consent to surrendering their firearms.
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Thanks. I just did some research as well. It says whomever files the claim must list all guns that are owned and where they are kept in the house.
"The petition also must include things, such as, how many guns the person has and where the weapons are."
So I'm curious if someone requests an ERPO against you, are you notified ?? Obviously if it's granted you are notified at 5am with a knock on your door, but if its denied would you ever even know it happened???
Yes, you will know if someone tried to get an order against you. A copy of the denial will be mailed to you from the Clerk of the District Court.
Where are you seeing that? I can’t seem to find it in the law or on the District Court’s website.
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Exactly. What happened with the 60 that were granted. Was somebody testifying with bruises all over their face, after getting out of the hospital, after being raped?
I have seen some pretty bad domestic violence stuff in real life and in court. No doubt in my mind that some people should lose their firearms after physically beating another person over a domestic dispute.
Then again, a normal protective order is supposed to relieve a person of their firearms. Is it possible that somebody used an ERPO instead of the normal protective order process? It would be interesting to see exactly what happened in those 60 cases where an ERPO was granted.
That's a high signal to noise ratio. Tells me the law is being abused by accusers.
If they let you know they’re coming then there’s no chance to make you think it’s a home invasion by no-knocking you at 0400. Hard to justify shooting you in your living room if you politely open the door.
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I assume that if you answer “ what guns?” and get arrested there goes checking “no” for the “Have you ever been arrested?” Question on jobs forms, college applications, rent applications. Just another way for them to marginalize their enemies.
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