first time AR buyer. what is legal here?

mike20855 · Sep 11, 2021

looking to buy my first AR15 and went to get the cheapest one I can find. I went to a gun shop and their lowest priced one was a lot higher than what I've seen online. are either of these legal to buy here if I don't get the magazine with it? what spec other than the magazine capacity can I NOT have in MD? I know I could read MD laws, but I thought maybe someone could save me time and give me the cliff notes. Thanks in advance

https://www.classicfirearms.com/delton-dt-sport-m2-556-black/

https://www.budsgunshop.com/product...er+ar556+556+161+black+6+position+stock+30+1+

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308Scout · Sep 11, 2021

Here is usually a good starting point if not building your own:

https://mdsp.maryland.gov/Organization/Pages/CriminalInvestigationBureau/LicensingDivision/Firearms/FirearmSearch.aspx

Two of the the MD compliant Ruger basic AR556 models are 8502 and 8511. The model that you posted above (8500) is banned.

Squaregrouper · Sep 11, 2021

If in .223/5.56 it must be marked or advertised as "Heavy Barrel" to be MD legal.

KGB-SPY · Sep 11, 2021

1. Find the rifle, make sure it's marketed as HBAR for DI rifles. If it's piston driven system, then you don't have to worry about being a copycat.
2. Check MDSP to make sure it's not banned here in MD.
3. Find a dealer (FFL holder) who will be doing a transfer and their fee.
4. Buy standard capacity magazines by going across to PA, VA and bring them with you.
5. Enjoy!

Art3 · Sep 11, 2021

You might consider investing a little bit more than the absolute cheapest price available and start a relationship with your Local Gun Shop. You can be confident that something your LGS sells off of his rack will be legal. If you have any problems with it, there is a much better chance that he will help you out with a gun you bought from him than one you just transferred through him. After you become a regular customer, you might find that he'll start knocking a few bucks off his sticker prices...and get real competitive to online deals (especially figuring on shipping and transfer fees)...especially if you bring cash.

camo556 · Sep 11, 2021

even both of those choices are high compared to what I've recently seen.

my advice hard pass on both at those prices.

Ruger does make a MD compliant model and it's a decent rifle.

"poverty tier" ARs are back to sub 500. you can get a PSA upper / lower. With shipping and transfer its another probably $80.

personally I would shop around at some LGS outside central MD first and see what you can get. Central MD is high cost of living and the prices are high.

rseymorejr · Sep 11, 2021

Don't forget to factor in shipping and transfer fees when comparing online and LGS pricing. Sometimes local turns out to be a better deal.

Meditator · Sep 11, 2021

Building one yourself will save you $$$. Any Mil-spec by Anderson/ PSA lower receiver will be fine, should be less than $100.

Then buy built kit with complete HBAR upper and lower parts from Delton: https://www.del-ton.com/Rifle-Kit-p/rkt101.htm $390 plus Tax/ Shipping currently. They have Free-shipping from time to time, like last weekend.

The most difficult part through this route is putting Lower part kits / Lower receiver together. But if you have friends who had built this before, it will be a no brainer. Youtube is your library.

Biggfoot44 · Sep 11, 2021

Simple Answer - Stop looking at the internet , or reading Shotgun News . All the blowout sale prices are for 45 State Legal guns , not Md Compliant version . You will just tease and frustrate yourself .

If it's on the shelf at Md dealer , it's legal .

Check prices at MD dealers with rep for good prices , such as JLowes .

The absolute cheapest may not be best choice , and a mid price @ $8-900 may be better value .

Among Md Compliant AR , the Windom Weapons HBC is your yardstick for both price and quality .

No , in Md you can't get the cool toys at cheap prices as in Free America . It's Maryland . Maryland sucks . Accept the suckage , or relocate across the state line .

308Scout · Sep 11, 2021

Biggfoot44 said:
Simple Answer - Stop looking at the internet , or reading Shotgun News . All the blowout sale prices are for 45 State Legal guns , not Md Compliant version . You will just tease and frustrate yourself .

If it's on the shelf at Md dealer , it's legal .

Check prices at MD dealers with rep for good prices , such as JLowes .

The absolute cheapest may not be best choice , and a mid price @ $8-900 may be better value .

Among Md Compliant AR , the Windom Weapons HBC is your yardstick for both price and quality .

No , in Md you can't get the cool toys at cheap prices as in Free America . It's Maryland . Maryland sucks . Accept the suckage , or relocate across the state line .

About sums it up, unfortunately.

camo556 · Sep 11, 2021

bca complete upper with 18" stainless heavy barrel, mid length gas, bolt carrier and charging handle $275 plus shipping.

https://www.bearcreekarsenal.com/22...1-8-twist-mid-length-15-handguard-rc-bur.html

Now find a complete lower and you are in business. PSA has one for $130, plus shipping and ffl transfer, if you call around to LGS and see you might do better.

but "the cheapest one I can find." should be sub 500, you just might have to get the upper/lower separately. spend the rest on an optic.

also, I am in no way endorsing these rifles. they will be minute of man accurate to 200 yds.

Mightydog · Sep 11, 2021

Check the IP map in the header and find a dealer closest to you. Call them and ask what’s available. A majority even give special prices to MDS members. Support your local dealer.

mike20855 · Sep 13, 2021

thanks all for the replies. dont know why the app isnt showing notifications for the replies.. i found it hard to believe that there were no replies yet so i went to my profile and my posts and saw that there were replies. will read through them and reply individually

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calicojack · Sep 13, 2021

Biggfoot44 said:
Among Md Compliant AR , the Windom Weapons HBC is your yardstick for both price and quality.

Yes. OP this is what you want.

https://atlanticfirearms.com/windham-weaponry-ar15-rifle-r16a4t-heavy-barrel-carbine

https://atlanticfirearms.com/windham-weaponry-r16da4t-848037036339

babalou · Sep 13, 2021

exactly

rseymorejr said:
Don't forget to factor in shipping and transfer fees when comparing online and LGS pricing. Sometimes local turns out to be a better deal.

This right here. Thought online AR lower prices were great. Then after shipping and transfer fees, they ended up about $25 higher than comparable ones at local dealers...unless you want that specific one..

IDFInfantry. · Sep 13, 2021

I’ve got some for sale. PM me if interested.

mike20855 · Sep 13, 2021

308Scout said:
Here is usually a good starting point if not building your own:

https://mdsp.maryland.gov/Organizat...LicensingDivision/Firearms/FirearmSearch.aspx

Two of the the MD compliant Ruger basic AR556 models are 8502 and 8511. The model that you posted above (8500) is banned.

thanks for the info i appreciate it

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mike20855 · Sep 13, 2021

ok thanks for the info

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mike20855 · Sep 13, 2021

squaregrouper said:
If in .223/5.56 it must be marked or advertised as "Heavy Barrel" to be MD legal.

thanks for the info. dont think ive seen that term but I'll look for it going forward

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mike20855 · Sep 13, 2021

KGB-SPY said:
1. Find the rifle, make sure it's marketed as HBAR for DI rifles. If it's piston driven system, then you don't have to worry about being a copycat.
2. Check MDSP to make sure it's not banned here in MD.
3. Find a dealer (FFL holder) who will be doing a transfer and their fee.
4. Buy standard capacity magazines by going across to PA, VA and bring them with you.
5. Enjoy!

#1 sounds complicated.. I'll have to educate myself on youtube.. I can also check with an FFL. thanks for the tips!

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