Is a Security Clearance grounds for Wear and Carry Permit?

HarCo.45 · Aug 25, 2020

I have just recently saw a reference to an active clearance being grounds for a MD Carry permit... is this the case? is there any other criteria required beyond that?

Tungsten · Aug 25, 2020

S isn't good enough.
TS is your golden ticket

ST19AG_WGreymon · Aug 25, 2020

TS SCI clearance is good to go. Just need a letter from your SSO stating active access or a VOE from a three-letter agency.

bbrown · Aug 25, 2020

ST19AG_WGreymon said:
TS SCI clearance is good to go. Just need a letter from your SSO stating active access or a VOE from a three-letter agency.

Yes, but then you're telling folks who don't really have a need-to-know, that you've got a TS/SCI. I'd think that would be difficult to reconcile with OPSEC.

SWO Daddy · Aug 25, 2020

bbrown said:
Yes, but then you're telling folks who don't really have a need-to-know, that you've got a TS/SCI. I'd think that would be difficult to reconcile with OPSEC.

Yeah, the whole thing is BS. Your average SSO/FSO isn't going to write that letter and look at you like a retard for even asking.

John from MD · Aug 25, 2020

SWO Daddy said:
Yeah, the whole thing is BS. Your average SSO/FSO isn't going to write that letter and look at you like a retard for even asking.

Not only that, you can be jeopardizing your job. Need to know is what it is all about.

Collector98 · Aug 25, 2020

ST19AG_WGreymon said:
TS SCI clearance is good to go. Just need a letter from your SSO stating active access or a VOE from a three-letter agency.

Are there any options for those who have a stubborn CSSO and won't give a letter? Im guessing not, but i at least have to ask.

hodgepodge · Aug 25, 2020

Collector98 said:
Are there any options for those who have a stubborn CSSO and won't give a letter? Im guessing not, but i at least have to ask.

Yes, but I need access to the Meade Rifle & Pistol Club site on another network. I'll look for it next week.

DeathBeforeDishonor · Aug 25, 2020

Who do you guys work for.. :cop:

miles71 · Aug 25, 2020

Nothing is for sure......... echo echo echo

calicojack · Aug 25, 2020

bbrown said:
Yes, but then you're telling folks who don't really have a need-to-know, that you've got a TS/SCI. I'd think that would be difficult to reconcile with OPSEC.

Well there are job postings that discuss a TS/SCI/Poly as a requirement and include locations.

calicojack · Aug 25, 2020

SWO Daddy said:
Yeah, the whole thing is BS. Your average SSO/FSO isn't going to write that letter and look at you like a retard for even asking.

Depends on the company you work for. I think OPSEC is an excuse; they just don't want to go through the trouble.

5cary · Aug 25, 2020

bbrown said:
Yes, but then you're telling folks who don't really have a need-to-know, that you've got a TS/SCI. I'd think that would be difficult to reconcile with OPSEC.

Meh. Go to one of the .gov/contractor job fairs. Everyone's resume and CV announce their clearance level in bold letters. Great places for intel collection and target reconnaissance.

SWO Daddy said:
Yeah, the whole thing is BS. Your average SSO/FSO isn't going to write that letter and look at you like a retard for even asking.

^this. If I tried to ask for such a letter (for arguments sake, let's pretend I might have a clearance :rolleyes:

), I'd be laughed out of [insert secured facility here].

ehall · Aug 25, 2020

I'm on the consulting side. My FSO takes security very seriously, always talking about taking a different route to work, stuff like that. I told him I heard TS was grounds for getting a permit, and he gave me a form letter, like he does them all the time. I am friends with a couple of govt civilians who have them too.

Collector98 · Aug 25, 2020

hodgepodge said:
Yes, but I need access to the Meade Rifle & Pistol Club site on another network. I'll look for it next week.

Awesome! I look forward to hearing from you!

Homesick Texan · Sep 30, 2020

I’d be interested in this letter as well. Thanks!

Darkemp · Sep 30, 2020

Depends, do you know who killed Kennedy?

Homesick Texan · Sep 30, 2020

Maybe, but I’d never tell.......

johnkn · Sep 30, 2020

Confirmation of TS/SCI should not be an issue, association can be. Stating on a Resume that a person has tickets and providing that resume to a prospective employer where access is a requirement is not a problem on a one-off basis. Standing on Rt.32 holding a sign is a different story. Some FSOs will balk at issuing confirmation in writing because for many it’s uncharted territory, but the situation is unique. While it’s not Federal Agency to Agency confirmation at classification, the confirmation IS going to a State Law Enforcement Agency who states they have a need to know only of the existence of an active clearance, but nothing beyond that. Somewhat gray, but I’ve seen the confirmation many times. Good luck....

johnkn · Sep 30, 2020

ehall said:
I'm on the consulting side. My FSO takes security very seriously.

LOL, he had better, that’s his job....

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