They tried to pass a bill to make it legal for marijuana users to be able to buy guns 2 years ago.
HQL denied to to Medical Marijuana Card?
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Trump did not have an ATF head, the head of was an Acting Position, no on has been confirmed in that position until this last guy by Biden, before him it was 15 years since the last confirmed head of the ATF. Regardless ATF cannot change federal law based on the classification of marijuana. Again, most here saw the train wreck that was to be once marijuana was decriminalized. There were numerous threads about how dispensaries had to contract protection of their shops due to federal laws.
omegared24
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Why people willingly put themselves on a list saying they use something that is illegal at the federal level is beyond me. Then they go to a dispensary and give more evidence.
I get it, prescription drugs are bad. In fact, I suffered through a broken ankle because the percocets the doctor prescribed just made me feel odd.
Everyone that I know that smokes weed claims that it is the cure all for everything. I think someone told me it cured athletes foot one time.
FWIW...I'm actually open to making all drugs legal and just treating them like alcohol when it comes to driving or public intoxication.
I get it, prescription drugs are bad. In fact, I suffered through a broken ankle because the percocets the doctor prescribed just made me feel odd.
Everyone that I know that smokes weed claims that it is the cure all for everything. I think someone told me it cured athletes foot one time.
FWIW...I'm actually open to making all drugs legal and just treating them like alcohol when it comes to driving or public intoxication.
smokey
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- Jan 31, 2008
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As long as it's easier to get black market weed than black market guns, and the penalty for weed is next to nothing, while the penalty for guns is pretty significant... if you must choose which one to do government paperwork for, guns are the clear winner.
Because legally he couldn't do that. The FDA would have to remove it from being listed as a schedule 1 drug.
Brickman301
Ultimate Member
You are correct it’s not on the 77, but it is on the 4473, which you also fill out.
MM might be legal in the state, but it’s still an illegal substance per federal law. The 4473 is a federal form, and there is the issue. It’s listed as 21E in the picture of the form I attached
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This is the problem, and it will exist until the Devil’s Lettuce is federally legal.
Brickman301
Ultimate Member
Yep!
Threeband
The M1 Does My Talking
It sounds to me like you just need to be patient until next January, and you'll be in the clear.
Meanwhile, let this be an educational introduction to the problem of bloated government and the tyranny of the Administrative State.
Most of government consists of unelected bureaucrats and administrators who spew mountains of regulations which have the force of law. This is in defiance of the constitution.
In this case, your civil rights are being denied, not by the law so much, as by regulations and interpretations of regulations produced by these untouchable bureaucrats. Your rational arguments mean nothing to those people.
The Administrative State has completely overwhelmed constitutional government since the administration of Woodrow Wilson, and even before.
But you should be okay next January, which will be here before you know it.
Meanwhile, let this be an educational introduction to the problem of bloated government and the tyranny of the Administrative State.
Most of government consists of unelected bureaucrats and administrators who spew mountains of regulations which have the force of law. This is in defiance of the constitution.
In this case, your civil rights are being denied, not by the law so much, as by regulations and interpretations of regulations produced by these untouchable bureaucrats. Your rational arguments mean nothing to those people.
The Administrative State has completely overwhelmed constitutional government since the administration of Woodrow Wilson, and even before.
But you should be okay next January, which will be here before you know it.
This is the reason why Hunter should be prohibited/in jail for lying on the form.
Legalize MJ on the federal level, change the forms (federal and state) to define habitual use as two DWIs, problem solved.
The problem is our country is too big to sufficiently cover everything with legislation. Legislators are not remotely experts in their field and you already gets multi hundred page bills. Out of that you get thousands of pages of regulation (most of it isn't something 99.9% of people would need to worry about. They include things like exactly how a federal agency should be doing its work, not administrative "law").
The executive branch has to implement legislation, per COTUS. That is what regulation is.
Should Congress write a law saying "income taxes, here are the tax brackets. Adjust for inflation, this is the due date and penalties for failure to pay" and then IRS and treasury then write the regulations on how to collect it, how to report it, the forms to use, how to structure the tax examiner branch, etc.
Or should Congress have to spell out every single detail? Laws are typically somewhere in between BTW.
PS The worse problem is legislators who have no clue about what they are legislating. Those unelected bureaucrats at least are usually highly skilled and knowledgeable about the areas they are regulating/overseeing/implementing. We complain all the time about horrible gun bills, many of which don't remotely do what the state/federal legislators think it will do. Now expand that out to cover MOST legislation. I am not arguing that bureaucrats should be making the laws. I am just pointing out that implementing a law is still something that takes someone with years of experience in the area to effectively do. The alternative is that more or less congress/legislative assemblies need to absorb all of that policy making that the executive branch does into and only the least complex bills will take YEARS to craft and will be significantly more obtuse to other legislators and the general public. There is literally no other way to govern. ALL governments have an administrative state. All functional governments have fairly large ones.
Beastmode1985
Member
- Jan 16, 2021
- 24
You can always turn in your MM card and just tell a friend with a MMC to buy what you need. It’s a bs but their is always a work around.
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Also perjury.
that is OK if you are a Democrat.
Out of curiosity, would that be a straw purchase? Asking for a friend.
Beastmode1985
Member
- Jan 16, 2021
- 24
A straw purchase marijuana? Hell if know I would take my chances with that versus a handgun lol I will prefer to be legally armed and then just get the weed however I get it
The fact you will "get the weed" means you will not be legally armed.
Beastmode1985
Member
- Jan 16, 2021
- 24
What they don’t know won’t hurt them. Get legally armed. And work the rest out. If you know you know.
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