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Possible trespassing?
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byf43
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We had an issue of people coming onto the farm that my son and I have permission to hunt.
My son called me from his treestand (he was bowhunting) and said that two guys are walking around, with guns, and asked what he should do.
I told him to call DNR (Catch-A-Poacher) and I will call the landowner.
DNR showed up. The owner showed up. I showed up.
Both confronted the trespassers/poachers. I sat in the owner's pick-up.
DNR asked them if they had permission.
Guy #1 said, "Yes."
Guy #2 said, "I'm with him."
DNR said, "Show me your license and written permission."
Guy #1 said, "I don't need it. The landowner said I could hunt here."
Landowner said, "No I didn't. You're trespassing. Leave now."
DNR cut both a break and told them to leave, and told them that he had their ID information and tag number, and that IF they were caught on the property again, they'd be arrested for trespass and poaching.
He also told them that they would lose their vehicle, shotguns and hunting privileges.
Hunter #1 asked, "How did you know that we were here?"
Landowner replied, "You were observed coming onto the property."
This farm now has game cameras set up on the road entrances.
My son called me from his treestand (he was bowhunting) and said that two guys are walking around, with guns, and asked what he should do.
I told him to call DNR (Catch-A-Poacher) and I will call the landowner.
DNR showed up. The owner showed up. I showed up.
Both confronted the trespassers/poachers. I sat in the owner's pick-up.
DNR asked them if they had permission.
Guy #1 said, "Yes."
Guy #2 said, "I'm with him."
DNR said, "Show me your license and written permission."
Guy #1 said, "I don't need it. The landowner said I could hunt here."
Landowner said, "No I didn't. You're trespassing. Leave now."
DNR cut both a break and told them to leave, and told them that he had their ID information and tag number, and that IF they were caught on the property again, they'd be arrested for trespass and poaching.
He also told them that they would lose their vehicle, shotguns and hunting privileges.
Hunter #1 asked, "How did you know that we were here?"
Landowner replied, "You were observed coming onto the property."
This farm now has game cameras set up on the road entrances.
doug38s
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Pretty sure they have to be 500 yards from the nearest out building to be hunting legally. 150 yards wouldnt cut it with a rifle. Bow yeah. Rifle not so much.
Vandy
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I am pretty sure it is 150 yards to the nearest building or request permission from the building owner. Calvert is not a rifle county - just shotguns for deer.
I too hunt off the side of Rt4 on private property (about 17 acres) that connects with a farm and adjacent properties that we do not have permission to hunt. About once a year we catch someone either walking around or riding an atv - it sucks.
The 150 rule is common throughout most of MD. Works as long as the occupied dwelling or structure or road isn't in the backdrop of the target.
Kimerazor
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It's 150 yards. Page 16 of the hunting guide.
We had trespassers all the time. We have 1200 acres on several farms so patrolling is difficult. The property needs to be posted before anyone is issued a ticket. It's BS, but that is the law.
Cameras are a big plus for catching criminals.
Love it when the criminals say the landowner gave them permission and then the NRP Officer asks, did you? Priceless.
You can legally keep the equipment left on your property from trespassers. Been there done that on advice from NRP. Guy called Sheriff's dept and they said I couldn't, NRP set the Deputy Sheriff straight.
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We had trespassers all the time. We have 1200 acres on several farms so patrolling is difficult. The property needs to be posted before anyone is issued a ticket. It's BS, but that is the law.
Cameras are a big plus for catching criminals.
Love it when the criminals say the landowner gave them permission and then the NRP Officer asks, did you? Priceless.
You can legally keep the equipment left on your property from trespassers. Been there done that on advice from NRP. Guy called Sheriff's dept and they said I couldn't, NRP set the Deputy Sheriff straight.
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BigSteve57
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- Feb 14, 2011
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I've been thrown off my own family's land any number of times by tresspassers that said they "had permission to hunt from the owner". I didn't know about the keeping their equipment part. This was in PA so that might not apply there.
These guys were often really beligerant; more than once I was threatened with bodily harm. At that point I/we just called the game or the state cops. Opening day of deer season is a real rough time for the game & state police so, problem was, by the time the cops got there they were always gone.
Kimerazor
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I have deputy sheriffs as neighbors & hunting lease neighbors. This helps.
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I always thought it was only trespassing when someone was told to not trespass by a law enforcement officer and then only after that it is enforceable.
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That's criminal trespassing
I think the laws in PA are such that unless the property is posted "No Trespassing", or they are verbally told, people are free to hunt the land. This thread touches on it: http://forums.bowsite.com/tf/bgforums/thread-print.cfm?threadid=379188&forum=2
Kimerazor
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Have a fellow MD Hunter Safety instructor who is DNR officer in Southern PA if you need a contact.
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Notify DNR!
lowoncash
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Have always heard that trespass with a loaded firearm is a felony. Anyone know if this is correct?
0128shot
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I have the same problem in MOCO, pickups driving down our farm road past our house and hunt on our neighbors farmland without permission from either.
CrabbyMcNab
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- Feb 1, 2009
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Good luck with those Poolesville ruffians, some can be real asshats
Incase you can't tell if the hunters are asshats, they'll look like this. -->
Yep, the DNR auctions off all kinds of good stuff that is confiscated ... cars, trucks, boats, guns, decoys ... anything "involved" can be confiscated and if there is a conviction, its forfeited and generally auctioned. A few things are kept for DNR use - years ago I recall a 31 ft Bertram that the DNR converted for use as a patrol boat.
There are lots of junky guns at the auction ... single shot 16's & 20's that hunt clubs risk hunting over bait and the like. Buy them back and reuse the same way. There are also personal heirloom guns that guys buy back ... granddad's shotgun or rifle sometimes goes back to the family for a lot more than what it would be worth on the market because of sentimental attachment.
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