PSA Buying a kayak

remrug · Aug 17, 2020

If you buy a new kayak or canoe,in the owner's manual there is a thing called a Certificate of Origin.Make sure you keep that and the original receipt.

If you buy one used,get a Bill of sale with price,date and owner's name and address.

I bought a new one from Dick's 10 yrs ago.I didnt keep the receipt or Certificate of Origin.I want to register it for use of an electric motor.Per the Md Licensing ,I had to contact Dick's and through 4 phone calls and two weeks of rigamaroo they sent me a certificate that lacks the sale price or the date of manufacture or the Id # of my kayak
I was required to write a letter stating why I didnt keep the receipt and CoO, and send in a tax ,a fee,pictures of my Kayak showing the Id # and an application for registering.
I mailed it in yesterday and I'm not even sure they will ok such a fubarred CoO.

All this for a #!@## kayak!!!!

A faked Bill of Sale would have been much easier :sad20:

Stevie Boy · Aug 17, 2020

And all that for a $2 title fee. Gotta love it. (assuming you bought it in Maryland originally)

[Kev308] · Aug 17, 2020

"I was required to write a letter stating why I didnt keep the receipt..."

Lol

:tongue01:

K31 · Aug 17, 2020

[Kev308];6003700 said:
"I was required to write a letter stating why I didnt keep the receipt..."

To Whom it May Concern,

I did not keep my receipt because I never dreamt I would encounter anyone so anal as to ask for one for a kayak.

I know there is a huge blackmarket kayak syndicate out there just waiting to defraud the State of Maryland by passing off stolen kayaks as legitimately owned. I understand many of them are hiring Inuits dressed up in seal skin parkas and carrying harpoons to complete the illusion. I hear they are using their ill-gotten proceeds to make counterfeit Hogan bobbleheads in North Korea.

Sincerely.

Grampa G · Aug 17, 2020

I see nothings changed. Ran into that when I tried to register a used 17’ Grumman canoe 30 years ago. They wanted me to go back to the owner and get a bill of sale. Problem was the guy died and even the house he lived in was gone.
I gave up wasn’t worth the aggravation.

Racer Doug14 · Aug 26, 2020

Da fuc*! I have 3 yaks that I was given. I dont have anything for them.

pbharvey · Aug 26, 2020

Racer Doug14 said:
Da fuc*! I have 3 yaks that I was given. I dont have anything for them.

It only matters if you plan on putting a motor on them

Muleskinner · Aug 26, 2020

Tell them it's a home made kayak. They can't refute your statement. Several years ago a friend of mine was given an old walk through hull boat. He cut the top off of it and rigged it for crabbing. He didn't have a title...he registered it as a home made vessel and the DNR didn't blink...He still uses it.

spoon059 · Aug 26, 2020

Sell it to your spouse/friend, give them a bill of sale. Problem solved.

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Archeryrob · Aug 27, 2020

I did this before and asked a lot of questions. If you build homemade they want to see the sales receipts that you paid MD tax on the supplies to make it. You probably don't have them and then you get taxed on the estimated value of it.

I bought a kayak for $300 and it's estimated value was $450. Guess which one they made me pay tax on to register it. That's right, the higher one. The same applies to cars now too. The days of selling your car to a family member for $1 are over. They tax on estimated value now. I had a trolling motor on a Ocean Kayak Prowler 15 for a while.

hosspower · Aug 27, 2020

I never thought of putting an electric motor on a kayak. What a great idea!

remrug · Aug 27, 2020

hosspower said:
I never thought of putting an electric motor on a kayak. What a great idea!

My fiance bought a kayak already set up with a trolling motor.It make it so easy to fish from,I decided I wanted one myself.

remrug · Aug 27, 2020

spoon059 said:
Sell it to your spouse/friend, give them a bill of sale. Problem solved.

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It definitely would have been easier to do it this way.I was trying to go by the book

Havent heard back from them yet btw

WatTyler · Aug 27, 2020

The State of Maryland State Department of Redundancy Department thanks you and says "Thank You."

lazarus · Aug 27, 2020

remrug said:
If you buy a new kayak or canoe,in the owner's manual there is a thing called a Certificate of Origin.Make sure you keep that and the original receipt.

If you buy one used,get a Bill of sale with price,date and owner's name and address.

I bought a new one from Dick's 10 yrs ago.I didnt keep the receipt or Certificate of Origin.I want to register it for use of an electric motor.Per the Md Licensing ,I had to contact Dick's and through 4 phone calls and two weeks of rigamaroo they sent me a certificate that lacks the sale price or the date of manufacture or the Id # of my kayak
I was required to write a letter stating why I didnt keep the receipt and CoO, and send in a tax ,a fee,pictures of my Kayak showing the Id # and an application for registering.
I mailed it in yesterday and I'm not even sure they will ok such a fubarred CoO.

All this for a #!@## kayak!!!!

A faked Bill of Sale would have been much easier

Ugh.

A timely heads up, thanks. I doubt I'll put a motor on it, but I am thinking of getting a couple kayaks or a canoe for fishing with my younger son. "I doubt I will" and "I know for sure I never will" are very different things.

AlphabetSoup · Aug 28, 2020

K31 said:
To Whom it May Concern,

I did not keep my receipt because I never dreamt I would encounter anyone so anal as to ask for one for a kayak.

I know there is a huge blackmarket kayak syndicate out there just waiting to defraud the State of Maryland by passing off stolen kayaks as legitimately owned. I understand many of them are hiring Inuits dressed up in seal skin parkas and carrying harpoons to complete the illusion. I hear they are using their ill-gotten proceeds to make counterfeit Hogan bobbleheads in North Korea.

Sincerely.

I think I'll save this as a template for future use. +1 internet point

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remrug · Sep 5, 2020

They returned my application.On the lower right hand side,There is a box for official use only.Under that box is where you are supposed to sign and date.I missed that.Hopefully that is the last hoop I encounter.It seems they are accepting the application and the messed up certificate of origin as is

slsc98 · Sep 5, 2020

remrug · Sep 5, 2020

slsc98 said:

Yup!!!!
Thats why I posted this here.Hopefully I can keep someone else from going through the frustration I have.

randyho · Sep 5, 2020

spoon059 said:
Sell it to your spouse/friend, give them a bill of sale. Problem solved.

I'm a fan of malicious obedience. Nice idea :party29:

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