Preparing For Spreading Coronavirus

CrazySanMan · Mar 3, 2020

Mightydog said:
Just a dumb question...why the big run on bottled water? Not like we’re getting hit by an EMP and the grid going down. I’m on septic and well. I plan the same as I have the Past 30 years. Have plenty of bottled water to flush with or drink but I can’t understand the run.

People have to work in the water treatment plants to give you clean drinking water. If they are quarantined and can't get to work, they can't make clean water for you to drink. It's a stretch maybe, but everyone should have plenty of water stashed away anyway so I think it's a good thing.

pbharvey · Mar 3, 2020

Baccusboy said:
People worried the whole system might go down, if enough people become sick. Yeah, it's a bit silly, IMHO.

I'll give you more silly... in Korea, you're supposed to flush the toilet with the seat down... because your toilet sneezes at you. Then they start talking about that testing done by the TV show Mythbusters.

1. The people in Nashville now know that anything can happen at any time. While I don't think the virus will hit like a tornado I do think it could hammer us very hard and very fast. There's a firehouse on quarantine in Washington state. That could just as easily be a water treatment plant or power plant.

2. Urine and fecal matter can be aerosolized through flushing as well as those stupid air dryers for your hand. Public restrooms are always a crapshoot. Much more so when there's a pandemic

Alea Jacta Est · Mar 3, 2020

Now I know why I retired to a cloistered convent...

pbharvey · Mar 3, 2020

Just listened to an update. Water pressure is down in Tehran, presumably due to the increase in washing.

Alea Jacta Est · Mar 3, 2020

pbharvey said:
Just listened to an update. Water pressure is down in Tehran, presumably due to the increase in washing.

Need more water to increase the volume and speed of flow in shits creek

fidelity · Mar 3, 2020

Sewage is a great way to survey viruses in a community - but more for one lurking in the background during the tail end of an eradication effort. Polio is still sometimes surveilled in the third world this way. Similarly, monkey sh1t was harvested in West and Central African jungles to give us a picture of how HIV adapted in gorillas and chimpanzees before jumping to humans. Much easier than getting a blood sample from a large nonhuman primate.

pbharvey · Mar 3, 2020

fidelity said:
Sewage is a great way to survey viruses in a community - but more for one lurking in the background during the tail end of an eradication effort. Polio is still sometimes surveilled in the third world this way. Similarly, monkey sh1t was harvested in West and Central African jungles to give us a picture of how HIV adapted in gorillas and chimpanzees before jumping to humans. Much easier than getting a blood sample from a large nonhuman primate.

I attended a Trout Unlimited meeting where a DNR guy was talking and its fascinating how fish are affected by drugs and whatnot dumped down the toilet. The hormonal effects are severe and really kinda gross.

erwos · Mar 3, 2020

CrazySanMan said:
People have to work in the water treatment plants to give you clean drinking water. If they are quarantined and can't get to work, they can't make clean water for you to drink. It's a stretch maybe, but everyone should have plenty of water stashed away anyway so I think it's a good thing.

The military / National Guard would be manning those plants long before the government would let them shut down. I don't trust the federal government for much, but even they know that losing water and power isn't an option. Otherwise, it's SHTF scenario time, and all the rules go right out the window.

My big concern is being stuck at home and the stores either being closed or unsafe to go to. So I am focused on food, meds, ammo, etc. Water is a distant priority on that list.

Boxcab · Mar 3, 2020

erwos said:
The military / National Guard would be manning those plants long before the government would let them shut down. I don't trust the federal government for much, but even they know that losing water and power isn't an option. Otherwise, it's SHTF scenario time, and all the rules go right out the window.

My big concern is being stuck at home and the stores either being closed or unsafe to go to. So I am focused on food, meds, ammo, etc. Water is a distant priority on that list.

Most water and sewage jobs can probably be performed in a MOP suit. Not easily, but they can be done.

If they ignore the sewer systems, they will overflow into the surrounding waterways... spreading the virus.

If they ignore the fresh water systems, they will end up with people roaming about looking for water, drinking from questionable waterways, etc.

The water systems will probably be the last systems the .gov/.mil will let go south. Power is a close second.

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aklax11 · Mar 3, 2020

Even still, went back to Costco Wheaton mid-day today to grab organic brown rice (not to stock up, but rather our costco membership expires soon haha) - all the normal water was gone (plenty of seltzer and smart water). No rice of any sort - also plenty of quinoa so got that.

pbharvey · Mar 3, 2020

aklax11 said:
Even still, went back to Costco Wheaton mid-day today to grab organic brown rice (not to stock up, but rather our costco membership expires soon haha) - all the normal water was gone (plenty of seltzer and smart water). No rice of any sort - also plenty of quinoa so got that.

Sams in Laurel was loaded yesterday with everything except hand sanitizer and vitamin C.
Everything else from beans to bleach was available in quantity.

JPG · Mar 3, 2020

CDC Updating more regularly now

This page will be updated regularly at noon Mondays through Fridays. Numbers close out at 4 p.m. the day before reporting.

W2D · Mar 3, 2020

Boxcab said:
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If they ignore the sewer systems, they will overflow into the surrounding waterways... spreading the virus.

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A backed up city sewer system keeps me up at night. If the power goes out for any length of time, those sewage pumps could go out. Imagine houses becoming uninhabitable because of sewage backing up.

No check valve in my house.

Seems like a good reason to have a septic system.

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JPG · Mar 3, 2020

Looks like MD now supplying Stats

Website doesn't say how often they will update the info.

This is a rapidly evolving situation and the Maryland Department of Health (MDH) will provide updates as they become available.

COVID-19 Testing and Confirmed Case Counts in Maryland
Number of patients tested for COVID-19: 13
Number of COVID-19 tests pending: 7
Number of negative COVID-19 tests: 6
Number of laboratory-confirmed COVID-19 cases: 0

CrazySanMan · Mar 3, 2020

W2D said:
A backed up city sewer system keeps me up at night. If the power goes out for any length of time, those sewage pumps could go out. Imagine houses becoming uninhabitable because of sewage backing up.

No check valve in my house.

Seems like a good reason to have a septic system.

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Sh!t rolls downhill and I'm at one of the highest elevations in the Denver metro area. I should be OK.

erwos · Mar 3, 2020

The wife finally bought in on my prepping/paranoia and picked up a couple things herself. Very proud!

aklax11 said:
Even still, went back to Costco Wheaton mid-day today to grab organic brown rice (not to stock up, but rather our costco membership expires soon haha) - all the normal water was gone (plenty of seltzer and smart water). No rice of any sort - also plenty of quinoa so got that.

My in-laws were at Wheaton Costco on Sunday, and I interrogated them about their purchases over dinner.

"Did you buy any bulk rice? Or anything? Quarantines could be coming soon."
"We have four pounds of rice at home, maybe we'll get some next time we go."

If that's indicative of the level of planning people in general have, a lengthy mandatory quarantine with store closures is going to be an utter disaster. People don't understand that shopping AFTER a mandatory quarantine is declared isn't a viable plan. The stores will either be mad houses or they'll be closed.

Granted, I've got two kids and a spouse to think about, but two pounds of rice is eight cups of rice. It goes a ways with two people, but not THAT far.

TreadNot · Mar 3, 2020

Wife stopped by the Bel Air Dollar Tree today. Cashier said just two customers yesterday bought 300 bottles of hand sanitizer, and now there is none. She also said there were lots of empty gaps in the shelves of who knows what items.

Alea Jacta Est · Mar 3, 2020

Well, that’s why we can’t have nice things. Didn’t even leave back a dozen or so. That kind of hoarding, in the face of a potential emergency, is bad juju. Karma, where are ya girl?

Mightydog · Mar 3, 2020

TreadNot said:
Wife stopped by the Bel Air Dollar Tree today. Cashier said just two customers yesterday bought 300 bottles of hand sanitizer, and now there is none. She also said there were lots of empty gaps in the shelves of who knows what items.

Probably to resell on eBay or amazon. Maybe even to send home to Asia or Europe.

MauiWowie · Mar 3, 2020

I don’t get the hysteria with this???? The FLU has already killed thousands of people and it doesn’t get any press?

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