Very Rare Opportunity for Citizens, Instructors & LEO's

kenpo333 said:

He is doing a mag40 class at Bridgeville rifle and pIstol club again this summer. This is the 4 day class If anyone is interest I'll get the dates.

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kenpo333 said:

He is doing a mag40 class at Bridgeville rifle and pIstol club again this summer. This is the 4 day class If anyone is interest I'll get the dates.

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kenpo333 said:

He is doing a mag40 class at Bridgeville rifle and pIstol club again this summer. This is the 4 day class If anyone is interest I'll get the dates.

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kenpo333 said:

He is doing a mag40 class at Bridgeville rifle and pIstol club again this summer. This is the 4 day class If anyone is interest I'll get the dates.

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deMontjoie said:

The Massad Ayoob MAG-20 class that was recommended by CypherPunk was superb, and greatly exceeded my expectations. Given some articles/posts that I had read over the years, I expected some egocentrism and arrogance from him.
I dunno whether the ego was never there, or whether Mas has maybe mellowed with the passage of years, but I saw none of that over the two loooong days. Massad was pleasant, polite, and quite self-effacing. He used self-deprecating humor through the class to make the students comfortable. He was patient, respectful, and tolerant with ALL of the students.
He covered every aspect of self-defense use of deadly force that is outlined in his various books (In the Gravest Extreme, Stressfire, etc.) but he expands upon the various points in ways that I did not appreciate from my dog-eared copies of the books.
He didn't sugar-coat the challenges associated with armed self-defense. Many times he apologized for ugly realities by saying "I'm not here to tell you how I want things to be, I am here to tell you how they really are." A number of his stores about how righteous and successful self-defensive uses of weapons by citizens and LEOs have gone sour due to relatively minor errors or oversights during the interrogation and/or trial phases.
The class format was unique -- about 15 minutes of prefatory lecture/discussion, around 20 minutes of a videotaped presentation/scenarios (with footnoted comments/clarifications), followed by another 15 minutes of post-video lecture and Q&A. Although an unusual format, this method definitely worked. He explained that doing it this way ensures consistency and quality control of the courses.
The class was two loooong days -- 10-11 hours with a working lunch each day. They did not seem long at the time however. Even though it was only 90 minutes from my home, I got a hotel room for Saturday night. I was darned glad that I did. By the end of the weekend, my hand was contorted into a claw from diligent note-taking.
The venue was a nice hotel conference room with an average temperature of 72F. Half the time it was 102F and half the time it was 42F. Just kidding -- it was inconsistently temperate but it wasn't QUITE that bad.
I won't spoil the surprise. But for those who have never been to an Ayoob class before he includes a very nice perk for his alumni -- just hope and pray that you never have to take him up on his offer. But if you do, you'll be glad that you had the option available.
If he's bringing another class to the area this Summer -- hopefully one of his classes including the hot-range time -- then I'll be attending if at all possible and, like CypherPunk, I'll very strongly recommend it to others.

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deMontjoie said:

The Massad Ayoob MAG-20 class that was recommended by CypherPunk was superb, and greatly exceeded my expectations. Given some articles/posts that I had read over the years, I expected some egocentrism and arrogance from him.
I dunno whether the ego was never there, or whether Mas has maybe mellowed with the passage of years, but I saw none of that over the two loooong days. Massad was pleasant, polite, and quite self-effacing. He used self-deprecating humor through the class to make the students comfortable. He was patient, respectful, and tolerant with ALL of the students.
He covered every aspect of self-defense use of deadly force that is outlined in his various books (In the Gravest Extreme, Stressfire, etc.) but he expands upon the various points in ways that I did not appreciate from my dog-eared copies of the books.
He didn't sugar-coat the challenges associated with armed self-defense. Many times he apologized for ugly realities by saying "I'm not here to tell you how I want things to be, I am here to tell you how they really are." A number of his stores about how righteous and successful self-defensive uses of weapons by citizens and LEOs have gone sour due to relatively minor errors or oversights during the interrogation and/or trial phases.
The class format was unique -- about 15 minutes of prefatory lecture/discussion, around 20 minutes of a videotaped presentation/scenarios (with footnoted comments/clarifications), followed by another 15 minutes of post-video lecture and Q&A. Although an unusual format, this method definitely worked. He explained that doing it this way ensures consistency and quality control of the courses.
The class was two loooong days -- 10-11 hours with a working lunch each day. They did not seem long at the time however. Even though it was only 90 minutes from my home, I got a hotel room for Saturday night. I was darned glad that I did. By the end of the weekend, my hand was contorted into a claw from diligent note-taking.
The venue was a nice hotel conference room with an average temperature of 72F. Half the time it was 102F and half the time it was 42F. Just kidding -- it was inconsistently temperate but it wasn't QUITE that bad.
I won't spoil the surprise. But for those who have never been to an Ayoob class before he includes a very nice perk for his alumni -- just hope and pray that you never have to take him up on his offer. But if you do, you'll be glad that you had the option available.
If he's bringing another class to the area this Summer -- hopefully one of his classes including the hot-range time -- then I'll be attending if at all possible and, like CypherPunk, I'll very strongly recommend it to others.

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