9th Circuit just ruled that there is “no right” to carry a firearm

• Mar 24, 2021

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Glaron

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https://www.newswars.com/breaking-n...ht-to-carry-firearm-either-open-or-concealed/

BREAKING: The US Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit just ruled that THERE IS NO RIGHT TO CARRY – either openly or concealed in public.

This ruling impacts RTC laws in AK, HI, CA, AZ, OR, WA, & MT.

This was not an NRA case but we are exploring all options to rectify this.

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In an appalling lack of knowledge on Constitution 9th Circus violates 2nd amendment....

God Help Us.

 

• Mar 24, 2021

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Qbeam

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So the term "bear" doesn't mean carry, like "bear the burden" (carry the burden).....


I guess legislate from the bench is alive and well.


Q

 

• Mar 24, 2021

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Good, let's kick it up to SCOTUS. F the 9th.

 

• Mar 24, 2021

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Interesting, according to this news article, the 9th previously ruled against concealed carry and now, today, they have ruled against open carry. If you can neither carry openly nor concealed how exactly does that meet the second amendment text of allowing one to "bear arms".

https://www.latimes.com/california/...nel-rules-states-may-restrict-open-carry-guns

 

• Mar 24, 2021

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What a giant butt load!

 

• Mar 24, 2021

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wilcam47

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I dont even understand what they are doing? Other than shooting themselves in foot

 

• Mar 24, 2021

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I can't see this lasting long.

 

• Mar 24, 2021

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That is not exactly what was said. They said that history and tradition say so. This is the real danger of simply allowing judges to interpret history and tradition

 

• Mar 24, 2021

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Maybe this will finally be the case that gets to the Supreme Court.

But for real, En-Banc decisions are pretty much dead sentences it seems when it comes to the 9th Circuit.

 

• Mar 24, 2021

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I would motion for a rehearing based on the fact that they introduced a new argument at the en banc level that was not previously raised.

 

• Mar 24, 2021

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How do these judges make it through law school if they are this oblivious to the constitution? SMFH.

 

• Mar 24, 2021

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jcutonilli said:

I would motion for a rehearing based on the fact that they introduced a new argument at the en banc level that was not previously raised.

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Who raised the new argument, the state?

 

• Mar 24, 2021

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Appears from the comments in the OPs link, this is old news from 2016.

https://www.theatlantic.com/news/archive/2016/06/ninth-circuit-peruta-ruling/486446/

 

• Mar 24, 2021

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Doctor_M said:

How do these judges make it through law school if they are this oblivious to the constitution? SMFH.

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Because division of power is an illusion and they are all part of the same system.

 

• Mar 24, 2021

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mpollan1 said:

Appears from the comments in the OPs link, this is old news from 2016.

https://www.theatlantic.com/news/archive/2016/06/ninth-circuit-peruta-ruling/486446/

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Same case, different phase of things. Yes, it's been dragging out that long, and it's not done yet.

 

• Mar 24, 2021

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Kharn said:

Who raised the new argument, the state?

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Yes. They previously argued that intermediate scrutiny was the appropriate standard. They hired Neal Katyal who did a good job introducing a new argument primarily based on history and tradition. Nobody could really respond because all briefs were due at the same time.

 

• Mar 24, 2021

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mpollan1 said:

Appears from the comments in the OPs link, this is old news from 2016.

https://www.theatlantic.com/news/archive/2016/06/ninth-circuit-peruta-ruling/486446/

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Peruta was for concealed carry, Young was about open carry.

 

• Mar 24, 2021

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This is the exception to how most states see it.

 

• Mar 24, 2021

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Did they just ban hunting with firearms on public hunting grounds?

 

• Mar 24, 2021

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Occam said:

Same case, different phase of things. Yes, it's been dragging out that long, and it's not done yet.

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Oh I see, thanks for providing me with some clarification.