ATF Form 5320.20 (Form 20) NFA Transport, Trust and post Oct. 1st questions

bobthefisher · Jun 11, 2014

Okay gents got a couple questions concerning transporting NFA items on an NFA Trust to/from my uncle's place in Pennsylvania.

1. For question one, have people been putting their trust name or actual full name?

2. For question three, is one year still acceptable by the ATF (e.g. 06/25/2014 to 06/24/2014)?

3. Do questions nine, ten, and eleven only apply to import/export in/out of the United States? If so, do we just leave them blank?

3. Since this is a transport for "target and sport shooting events", question nine requests a "State Department License". What the hell do we put there?

4. For questions ten and eleven, for a personal automobile I take it would be the road/interstate you would cross state lines?

I'll be calling the NFA branch on some of these questions anyway, although I would like to know your guy's take on some of these questions. Also has anyone received any push back from the ATF over the new laws post Oct 1st? Do we really have to worry about reentry and the firearms violating MD law? I think not, but it's something we should be asking. The items are both SBR's and machineguns. Thanks guys.

ATF Form 5320.20

Wayne1one · Jun 11, 2014

bobthefisher said:
2. For question three, is one year still acceptable by the ATF (e.g. 06/25/2014 to 06/24/2014)? Yes

3. Do questions nine, ten, and eleven only apply to import/export in/out of the United States? If so, do we just leave them blank? Yes

3. Since this is a transport for "target and sport shooting events", question nine requests a "State Department License". What the hell do we put there? Not applicable to you

4. For questions ten and eleven, for a personal automobile I take it would be the road/interstate you would cross state lines? Not applicable to you

Could only answer a few, I have never transported under my trust name only as an individual..

bobthefisher · Jun 11, 2014

Yeah I think for question one I'm going to put the following:

<full name>, <trust name>, trustee

This way the ATF will be able to correlate the request to my trust easier. Although, I'm still wondering if anyone has tried putting just their trust name for question one.

Wayne1one,

Not to question your previous post, but are you 100% sure questions 9, 10, and 11 are N/A to us normal shmucks? The reason I'm asking that, is that I could of swore I saw someone's Form 20 a couple years ago and they had entered in the actual route they would be driving. I dunno, the memory is a little fuzzy. Thanks though.

Just a notable observation, there's very little guidance online, even on other forums, about filling out the NFA transportation From 20. I thought that a bit odd. However, there's a whole bunch of info and guidence on how to fill out Form 1/4's.

bobthefisher · Jun 11, 2014

Ah! FINALLY found a good link. Still wouldn't mind other personal experiences from MDS members.

FYI for anyone else with similar questions.

https://www.arsenalattorneys.com/atf-form-5320-20

smdub · Jun 11, 2014

For #1 need trust name "WXYZ Trust". I orig used my name and the examiner called me and had me resubmit w/ just the trust name. The trust is the registered owner not me. For #8 I put "driving a car" Left 9,10,11 blank as its NOT being temporarily exported. It was approved.

bobthefisher · Jun 11, 2014

Thanks guys, I'll submit my Form 20's with my trust name and sign as a trustee. I'll report back if I have any problems.

Wayne1one · Jun 12, 2014

Sorry for my late response, but my previous post was based on an approved 5320.20 that I submitted.

TNW · Jun 15, 2014

Submitted mine today. Signed with my name, and included a copy of the approved Form 1. Addressed it to the attention of the examiner who approved my Form 1.

Calengor · Jun 27, 2014

TNW said:
Submitted mine today. Signed with my name, and included a copy of the approved Form 1. Addressed it to the attention of the examiner who approved my Form 1.

Is it necessary to include a copy of your approved form 1? The instructions don't say anything about this.

jsnider22 · Jun 27, 2014

Calengor said:
Is it necessary to include a copy of your approved form 1? The instructions don't say anything about this.

No just submit 2 copies of the 5320.20. I just did 1 a few weeks ago and it was very quick turn around, about 2 weeks.

Wayne1one · Jun 29, 2014

TNW said:
included a copy of the approved Form 1. Addressed it to the attention of the examiner who approved my Form 1.

Not necessary........

bobthefisher · Jul 24, 2014

Sorry for the late update. I received my approved Form 20's a couple weeks ago for a whole bunch of pre and post Oct. 1st NFA items (<29" OAL, etc.), traveling to PA. Good for one year under my trust name.

So... no problems there.

racerbob66 · Jul 24, 2014

I combined 2 non-trust guns and 1 trust gun on my 5320.20 and put my name on the form, I didn't mention the trust. I received the approved form this week.

I didn't think about mentioning the trust until after I mailed the form. Apparently there is no consistency at he ATF, :lol2:

smdub · Jul 25, 2014

FWIW, I got a batch of Form 20s back this week. Took about 2 weeks.

bobthefisher · Jul 26, 2014

smdub said:
FWIW, I got a batch of Form 20s back this week. Took about 2 weeks.

Took a little over two weeks for me as well.

pwoolford · Sep 24, 2015

Need to transport to PA next month so I'm doing my first 5320.20.

I put my trust name as the Manufacturer of the firearm correct? These are all form 1 trust owned items.

pwoolford · Sep 24, 2015

Okay second issue....trust name doesn't fit in their fill form under manufacturer. Guess I'll have to get creative.

bobthefisher · Sep 24, 2015

pwoolford said:
Need to transport to PA next month so I'm doing my first 5320.20.

I put my trust name as the Manufacturer of the firearm correct? These are all form 1 trust owned items.

Only if you were the original manufacturer (e.g. 80% AR lower). If not, you put whoever originally built the firearm (receiver).

pwoolford · Sep 24, 2015

bobthefisher said:
Only if you were the original manufacturer (e.g. 80% AR lower). If not, you put whoever originally built the firearm (receiver).

Thanks. Now I just need to find the street address I'm going to. Been searching for an hour but no luck. Turning "York County FOP Lodge 73 Range
York, PA" into an actual address is turning into quite a task!

fred333 · Sep 24, 2015

According to their website (http://yorkfop73.org), that is their address. So that's what I'd use. Or, since we're dealing with ATF, if you wanna be sure, why not ring them and ask if they have an alternate address?

Just fyi: When I do a 5320.20, I add a semi-colon after the address and add: "any locations within state".

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