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  • usa259

    Active Member
    Mar 11, 2015
    817
    If you were to buy or start the process of buying a suppressor, say tomorrow am, what would you get and where would you get it...

    For a 556, 18" Gas Piston side-charging carbine?

    Off the top of my head, shorter and lighter would seem to be a benefit...
     

    schnmbang

    Active Member
    Aug 23, 2014
    145
    Dead air sandman K or S for heavy use as they weight a little more. Nomad if you don’t want the weight but not made to run as hot and abuse
     

    alucard0822

    For great Justice
    Oct 29, 2007
    17,643
    PA
    Much depends on what else you might want to use it on, and how you want to mount it.

    The main issue with semi-auto rifles is restriction/blowback. Easy enough to fix with adjustable gas, but it can cause malfunctions and generally increases the blast from wherever excess gas bleeds off, port or the block in a piston gun. OSS cans are unique in that they offer mediocre suppression, but without increasing restriction, pretty good if you have a lot of ARs or piston guns to suppress, and don't want to or can't slap AGBs on them. Generally welded or tubeless cans are stronger, lighter, and have more internal volume. Rifle cals generally break up fouling from the muzzle blast regularly, so the cans never really need to be cleaned, just shaken out, and mounts/threads maintained. Pistol cals can get dirty with cast bullets, and might get thicker fouling before it breaks up, rimfire cans clog up over time, and must be serviceable.

    Other than that it's usually balancing weight/size vs suppression vs blowback. Generally 30 cal cans on 5.56 reduce blowback, and sound decent, that is the direction I went. 5.56 cans might offer the same or slightly less muzzle dB in a smaller size than a 30 cal can, fine for a bolt gun, but usually increase the port pop in semis to actually make them sound louder to the shooter even if the muzzle blast is quieter. Rifle rated 9mm cans like the Optimus and Omega 36M are very versatile if you plan to suppress more stuff or want to use in multiple lengths/configurations. Most everyone makes a decent 30 cal can, YHM, dead air, Rugged, Griffin, Silencerco, Q etc, take your pick. Some have standard-ish mounts compatible with the Omega's 1.375x24 modular mounts, and can be swapped between brands, this allows flexibility, and prevents a situation with proprietary mounts if your chosen mount/muzzle device goes out of production. QD mounts are really convenient, makes it easy to swap cans between hosts, but most are proprietary. I like Griffin taper mounts, simple, lightweight, available in a range of muzzle devices, plan A adapters are available for a lot of 3rd party cans. You can go the direct thread route, but should torque the can on before shooting, and the smaller/finer threads compared to QD mounts can get chewed if you swap cans often.
     

    SkiPatrolDude

    Ultimate Member
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    Oct 24, 2017
    3,331
    Timonium-Lutherville
    I have the Silencerco Saker 556 and it's been great on my 10.3 inch barreled SBR.

    It's also comparatively cheaper than some other options. The 556K is the short version.

    It's extremely durable and you really can't beat Silencerco's warranty.

    It does suffer from a little back pressure, but nothing I couldn't resolve with a heavier buffer. Minimal POI shift, to the point where within reasonable ranges I do not have to adjust my optics to slap steel.
     

    Jim12

    Let Freedom Ring
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    Jan 30, 2013
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    wabbit

    Ultimate Member
    Apr 29, 2010
    5,205
    I got the same email, even though I decided several years ago to buy a YHM supressor instead of SilencerCo. I guess my name and email will never come off their mailing list.
     

    DaemonAssassin

    Why should we Free BSD?
    Jun 14, 2012
    23,970
    Political refugee in WV
    If you were to buy or start the process of buying a suppressor, say tomorrow am, what would you get and where would you get it...



    For a 556, 18" Gas Piston side-charging carbine?



    Off the top of my head, shorter and lighter would seem to be a benefit...
    Take a look at Yankee Hill Machine cans. The bang for the buck is there with YHM. Silencer Shop has them, but you'll have to call and back order them if they show a OOS. I backordered 2x Resonator R2 cans over the phone and about 2 weeks later they were being sent to my dealer.
     

    outrider58

    Eats Bacon Raw
    MDS Supporter
    Jul 29, 2014
    49,816
    Take a look at Yankee Hill Machine cans. The bang for the buck is there with YHM. Silencer Shop has them, but you'll have to call and back order them if they show a OOS. I backordered 2x Resonator R2 cans over the phone and about 2 weeks later they were being sent to my dealer.

    ^^^This^^^
     

    usa259

    Active Member
    Mar 11, 2015
    817
    Yankee Hill Machine Resonator R2 - Cindy's Hot Shot had it in stock and better price than the couple of other places I went. They have a lot in stock actually.
     

    usa259

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    Mar 11, 2015
    817
    So i bought the YHM flash hider qd and the instructions say to have the barrel threads checked to make sure they are within spec to avoid baffle strikes, hmmmm, just YHM covering their butts or is it a procedure to follow? Current YHM flash hider isn't a problem...
     

    outrider58

    Eats Bacon Raw
    MDS Supporter
    Jul 29, 2014
    49,816
    So i bought the YHM flash hider qd and the instructions say to have the barrel threads checked to make sure they are within spec to avoid baffle strikes, hmmmm, just YHM covering their butts or is it a procedure to follow? Current YHM flash hider isn't a problem...

    ALL barrel need to be checked for consentricity(sp). Meaning, some rifle bores are not necessarily centered to the barrel. If that is the case, the rifle bore will be off center to the suppressor bore possibly resulting in a baffle strike. I have rods for .224, .308, and 9mm.

    Not only that, you should always test you ammo for flight stability before running it through your can. This is especially crucial when developing and shooting reloads. Make sure they make nice round holes in the target before you try them through your can.
     

    John from MD

    American Patriot
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    May 12, 2005
    22,733
    Socialist State of Maryland
    ALL barrel need to be checked for consentricity(sp). Meaning, some rifle bores are not necessarily centered to the barrel. If that is the case, the rifle bore will be off center to the suppressor bore possibly resulting in a baffle strike. I have rods for .224, .308, and 9mm.

    Not only that, you should always test you ammo for flight stability before running it through your can. This is especially crucial when developing and shooting reloads. Make sure they make nice round holes in the target before you try them through your can.

    Where do you buy the rods for this purpose?

    TIA
     

    outrider58

    Eats Bacon Raw
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    Jul 29, 2014
    49,816
    Where do you buy the rods for this purpose?

    TIA

    You can start here: https://www.brownells.es/FNH-16S/17...Barrel-Straightness-Gauge-BROWNELLS-080000978

    or here: https://pacifictoolandgauge.com/bor...ore-straightness-gauge-standard-diameter.html

    These are out of stock but you can subscribe: https://www.silencershop.com/gear/tools/surefire-bore-alignment-rod.html

    They aren't cheap. A good gunsmith will have some as also some shops that specialize in selling suppressors will have them. You can probably go to where you purchased your can and have it checked as well.

    A couple years ago, a member on here laid out rod sizes to order from McMaster-Carr and that's what I did. I couldn't tell you what to search for on their site though. It was quite a while ago.

    Here are the rods I ordered for 5.56/.223 and 7.62/.308 respectfully:
     

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    rossiski

    Active Member
    Dec 28, 2019
    169
    Carroll County
    I believe Maryland elite firearms still has specwar cans in 7.62 and 5.56. They are little heavy but bomb proof construction. Still waiting on line but hopefully will have soon. Check was cashed mid January.


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