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Old May 5th, 2021, 01:06 AM #1
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HQL application administratively denied: instructor needs to sign off on training?

Hello. I completed my HQL training with LTTC on 4/28 and applied for my HQL on 4/29. I received an email from MSP on 5/4 saying, and I quote:
“A review of your HQL application revealed your instructor has not signed off on your mandatory four hour training course. As a result, your application has been administratively denied.”
Has anyone else ever received a similar email from MSP?

I contacted my HQL training provider but have not yet heard back from them. According to the MSP checklist, the only items in my application with an incomplete status are NICS and Secondary Review.

Is this a simple issue to resolve, and what should I do?

Thank you.
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Old May 5th, 2021, 03:56 AM #2
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Sounds like you need to call your training place, when I did mine they have to send the documents in, so it probably didn't reach them.
Another way is for you to go out and buy a stripped AR lower receiver, and bypass the class requirement all together.
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Old May 5th, 2021, 08:10 AM #3
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Thank you. It has all been fixed and I now have my HQL.
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Old May 12th, 2021, 01:32 PM #4
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for the benefit of others seeking to resolve this problem, how did you resolve?
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Old May 12th, 2021, 01:53 PM #5
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My HQL instructor told us to let him know when we applied so he could go in and sign off on our application. He said he had no way to know we had applied unless we told him.
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I'm glad it worked out for the OP .

But could our resident HQL Instructors chime in , is the typical practice ?
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Old May 12th, 2021, 02:12 PM #7
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The latest update to the system has added an email notification to the instructors. Before this we had no way of knowing if someone had applied unless we logged into the MSP portal or the students let us know. I used to tell my students the same thing, "email me when you are done", so I would know to verify them.

Now when a student applies I get an email notification, actually a very nice feature.

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Huh ? Do I understand this correctly , there is no longer any type of Certificate or other corporeal documentation for completing an HQL Class ? That a student has to separately contact the Instructor to take an Additional action to be able to actually use the HQL Class ?
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HQL application administratively denied: instructor needs to sign off on training?

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Huh ? Do I understand this correctly , there is no longer any type of Certificate or other corporeal documentation for completing an HQL Class ? That a student has to separately contact the Instructor to take an Additional action to be able to actually use the HQL Class ?

Instructor has to sign off under their own instructor sign on. Certificates could be forged. No way to let MSP know who might have taken the class and I for one sure as hell don’t want to tell them. It would be better if MSP sent an email asking the instructor to sign on and verify the qualification. Which I understand they now do.


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Huh . So , if a student takes the class ahead of time when opportunity arises ,but doesn't get the prints , etc for 6 months or so , and the Instructor meanwhile has a heart attack or gets run over by a truck , then the student is SOL , and has to get " trained" all over again ?
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