Got my Yong Heng compressor

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  • John from MD

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    May 12, 2005
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    Socialist State of Maryland
    It came yesterday and I have been breaking it in yesterday and today. Based on videos and reports, I first checked all the hardware was secure, filled with oil and made the supplied oil separator into a water/oil separator until I can buy one. I did this by cutting a filter into three pieces, installing a piece at each end and adding desiccant beads in the middle.

    I have not received my male to male Forster fitting so I couldn't fill up my air tank. (it was supposed to be here but you know the post office :rolleyes:) So, I passed the time by running the pump and shooting my rifle. I used Husky synthetic oil from Home Depot for the break-in time. After that, I will fill with Royal Purple.

    I have a vibrating hour meter on order, and also a Fahrenheit temp indicator (7.99 from Amazon and fits in the same hole as the Celsius unit. I'm too old to change. I'm also ordering a $19 water pump from Amazon which will put out more gph than the one that came with the pump. One video guy did the measurements and found the larger pump does a better job of cooling.

    I just modified the valve on my Marauder Pistol and needed to re work the shot string. This pump was perfect for that. I was running strings from 3000 to 2000 and 2600 to 1800 and refilling only took about 20 seconds. By the end of the day, the compressor temp was at 50C using the same bucket of water all day. The discharge was noticeable warmer during my last fill.

    Since fill up didn't take long, I was letting the compressor run for 15 minutes every fill up without a load. I put five hours on it in the last two days and did my first oil change. It was no where near as bad as some folks have reported on line.

    Oh, does anyone want a beat Benjamin hand pump. :rolleyes:
     

    shootnfishndorf

    Active Member
    Mar 17, 2016
    338
    Waldorf
    Congrats...I've only ran mine for less than 3 minutes at a time....not sure if that is better or worse for longevity....but sure beats hand pumping.
     

    ESP

    Member
    Nov 21, 2012
    66
    Maryland
    Please keep this thread going. I just bought my 1st PCP gun, and I am already tired of pumping. Since I don't have a tank, and I am not sure I "really" need one (yet) I was looking at a Omega Portable 4,500 psi Compressor – LIQUID COOLED. It is featured here:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tV4UvaWpGQY
    Skip to the 29 minute mark in the video.

    If the Yong Heng can do the job for less. I will likely give it a try.

    It is somewhat daunting for me as a newbie to digest all the stuff that goes with filling a PCP. Compressors, tanks, pumps, Shoeboxes, regulators, oil separators, water separators, and the 4300psi penalty for failure. Hopefully a good thread can help me not be the poster child for what not to do.
     

    John from MD

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    May 12, 2005
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    Please keep this thread going. I just bought my 1st PCP gun, and I am already tired of pumping. Since I don't have a tank, and I am not sure I "really" need one (yet) I was looking at a Omega Portable 4,500 psi Compressor – LIQUID COOLED. It is featured here:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tV4UvaWpGQY
    Skip to the 29 minute mark in the video.

    If the Yong Heng can do the job for less. I will likely give it a try.

    It is somewhat daunting for me as a newbie to digest all the stuff that goes with filling a PCP. Compressors, tanks, pumps, Shoeboxes, regulators, oil separators, water separators, and the 4300psi penalty for failure. Hopefully a good thread can help me not be the poster child for what not to do.

    The question is, do you need a portable compressor. If a midget bottle will suffice, you may want to go with the small bottle and a fixed type of compressor as they are cheaper. I also suggest that you read some of the reviews on www.pyramidair.com as well.
     

    hooligan82

    Ultimate Member
    Nov 2, 2011
    1,359
    Baltimore county
    I have the air venturi carbon bottle. In the near future I will be going to a compressor. My brother has a benjamin traveler. It will run on either 120 or 12v. It works well but you need to monitor it and shut it off if the temp gets too high. It will fill a small bottle to 4500(although the manufacturer doesn't recommend it)but you will need to cycle it and allow it time to cool.

    The primary reasons I'm upgrading to a compressor are the tank won't fill my new gun to 4350 psi and I don't need to stop shooting if I can't find a place to fill the tank.

    R&l airgun sells what looks to be a clone of the traveler with a 1 year warranty. Umarex is also coming out with a similar model. Unfortunately everything is on backorder because of covid. I'll probably buy whichever becomes available first. Both of these are sub $500 options.

    A lot of the guys on GTA forum recommend buying the 4 year Amazon warranty if you buy a Chinese compressor there. They will send you an Amazon gift card for purchase price if repair isn't an option.

    Sent from my SM-G973U using Tapatalk
     

    John from MD

    American Patriot
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    May 12, 2005
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    Socialist State of Maryland
    I have the air venturi carbon bottle. In the near future I will be going to a compressor. My brother has a benjamin traveler. It will run on either 120 or 12v. It works well but you need to monitor it and shut it off if the temp gets too high. It will fill a small bottle to 4500(although the manufacturer doesn't recommend it)but you will need to cycle it and allow it time to cool.

    The primary reasons I'm upgrading to a compressor are the tank won't fill my new gun to 4350 psi and I don't need to stop shooting if I can't find a place to fill the tank.

    R&l airgun sells what looks to be a clone of the traveler with a 1 year warranty. Umarex is also coming out with a similar model. Unfortunately everything is on backorder because of covid. I'll probably buy whichever becomes available first. Both of these are sub $500 options.

    A lot of the guys on GTA forum recommend buying the 4 year Amazon warranty if you buy a Chinese compressor there. They will send you an Amazon gift card for purchase price if repair isn't an option.

    Sent from my SM-G973U using Tapatalk

    I bought the warranty with mine although it is simple enough to do repairs yourself if you are handy. One thing I suggest to anyone purchasing one of the less expensive compressors is to buy a few spares. Something like the cylinder assembly is easy to change with a few socket head bolts and 1/2 and 9/16 wrenches.

    Enough folks have played with the Yong Heng compressors and put videos on line on what they have done.

    As far as cooling goes, several models of compressors use an external water source as a coolant. Initially I used a 5 gallon bucket but now feel confident using a 2 gallon bucket with a frozen juice container in it. My pump stabilizes at 45C when pumping and can do it for 15 minutes. I plan to use it in 15 minute spurts when filling my tank as most users have recommended that time frame. For filling rifles, there is no worry as going from 2000 to 3000 PSI only takes a minute from turning the unit on. At times like this, the temperature doesn't rise above 40C.
     

    hooligan82

    Ultimate Member
    Nov 2, 2011
    1,359
    Baltimore county
    I bought the warranty with mine although it is simple enough to do repairs yourself if you are handy. One thing I suggest to anyone purchasing one of the less expensive compressors is to buy a few spares. Something like the cylinder assembly is easy to change with a few socket head bolts and 1/2 and 9/16 wrenches.



    Enough folks have played with the Yong Heng compressors and put videos on line on what they have done.



    As far as cooling goes, several models of compressors use an external water source as a coolant. Initially I used a 5 gallon bucket but now feel confident using a 2 gallon bucket with a frozen juice container in it. My pump stabilizes at 45C when pumping and can do it for 15 minutes. I plan to use it in 15 minute spurts when filling my tank as most users have recommended that time frame. For filling rifles, there is no worry as going from 2000 to 3000 PSI only takes a minute from turning the unit on. At times like this, the temperature doesn't rise above 40C.
    I don't think I want a water cooled unit. I'm looking at the 120/12v units for the mobility of them. I will mostly be using it to top the gun off so temp shouldn't be an issue.

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    John from MD

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    I've had one for a while now. I have modified it to accept air from a shop compressor and have an output filter on it.
    Details are here; https://cockrum.net/shooting.html

    HO LI FOK Batman. That is one neat set up. I've thought about using my shop compressor as well. I may do something like that when I get to Florida about 2 years from now, barring any difficulties.
     

    ESP

    Member
    Nov 21, 2012
    66
    Maryland
    The question is, do you need a portable compressor. If a midget bottle will suffice, you may want to go with the small bottle and a fixed type of compressor as they are cheaper. I also suggest that you read some of the reviews on www.pyramidair.com as well.

    Being new to PCP. I am not "sure" what I need. I am shooting around my house right now. I have an Avenger, so I can easily get 40 shots and much more if I tune it for targets. That is a big enough shot count if any of my powder burning friends want to "test" it on the vermin around their house. Currently, I don't see traveling and/or competing with a PCP.

    So I guess I just need an efficient way to fill up at home, with an eye to maybe needing more in the future. I am willing to pay a bit of a premium for future flexibility.

    I have noticed that no matter what you buy, expensive add ons are recommended.(oil/water separator). I need to look at the entire cost of a system, not just the price of the compressor. I do have a shop compressor, so Chris's amazing setup is a consideration. Knowing how the Shoebox does not have a big water problem, that would have been an obvious choice coupled with my existing shop compressor. But I cant dwell on the unpossible.

    Given the above, I don't think I need a bottle. Am I missing something? (other than the quiet/quick refilling). I am thinking a smallish 12/120 volt would suit my needs for a bit. And if it can fill a small bottle, it might give me some future flexibility.
     

    euler357

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    Apr 6, 2011
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    Odenton, Marylandistan
    How many times a tank will fill your gun depends on the gun tank size and maximum pressure. For example, an FX Crown with a 480cc tank at 3625 will only get 1.2 fills from a Benjamin 90cu (14.5cu ft of air) tank at 4500psi assuming refilling at 1500psi. A great white tank (97cu ft) will give the same rifle 7.7 fills.

    A smaller lower pressure gun like the Benjamin Marauder will get about 6 fills from the small benjamin tank and about 41 fills from the great white tank.

    Bottom line: if you want to shoot PCP much, get a portable compressor or a large tank. I have both the Benjamin and Great White 97cu ft tanks. I fill the Great White from my compressor about every 2 months and shoot several times a week.

    Fill Calculator:
    https://www.airgunsofarizona.com/Tanks/FillCalc.html

    Great White Tank:
    http://www.airtanksforsale.com/GreatWhite/

    Also, if you try to go the SCBA tank route, be aware that not all valves are slow-flow and don't allow for much pressure control which may burst the tank on a gun. Make sure that you either get a tank with slow-flow valve or a pressure regulator for filling.

    If you are in the Odenton area, I'd be willing to discuss / help you get started with PCP.
     

    euler357

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    Apr 6, 2011
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    BTW. I believe that Shoebox compressors in now out of business. The availability of the Benjamin Traveler and the Air Venturi nomad put them out of business. Both the Traveler and Nomad don't have great water filtering capabilities so I'd get a decent inline filter if I used them as a primary source of air.
     

    ESP

    Member
    Nov 21, 2012
    66
    Maryland
    Thanks for the calculator. An 18 cu ft tank will fill my 180cc Avenger 1x (fill to 4300, refill at 2500). So I think a small tank is out.
     

    Vic

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    Jul 2, 2010
    1,454
    Whiteford, MD
    That is quite a setup. Last time I saw something like that was on MASH, Hawkeye's still. Looks like it should work. Using your garage compressor should be pretty good at removing the moisture up front. I fill my tank in the basement and 50% humidity is max down there. Usually less. I've been using my Yong Heng for some time now but don't work it as much as you all do. I fill my small tank once a month or so. It works okay, a little loud, but works pretty good.

    Hope to whack some more stuff hunting. Kind of excited about MD adopting the straight walled cartridge law. I have 4 or 5 guns that qualify. Love my Marlins.
    V
     

    John from MD

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    May 12, 2005
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    Being new to PCP. I am not "sure" what I need. I am shooting around my house right now. I have an Avenger, so I can easily get 40 shots and much more if I tune it for targets. That is a big enough shot count if any of my powder burning friends want to "test" it on the vermin around their house. Currently, I don't see traveling and/or competing with a PCP.

    I am just about to push the button on an Avenger. I figured I would see if you learned anything else about your rifle before I do. I have read or watched just about everything I can about it.
     

    euler357

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    Apr 6, 2011
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    Yeah, I backordered a new 1895SBL .45-70 Marlin about a month ago. Still waiting for it to be in-stock again. I like that it has standard ballard rifling instead of microgroove so cast lead should be good. I've booked a trip to the eastern shore to rifle hunt in about a month. Taking my .300 Win Mag since they are supposed to have out to 1000 yards.
     

    Jake4U

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    Sep 1, 2018
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    I use one to refill/top off the aluminum 80s I use with my submarine. Works well and I don't have to track down a dive shop when I'm on the road. I too use a water separator along with a micropore/activated charcoal filter. I have no intention of breathing the air it pumps out, but see no need to pump excess oil and other contaminants into the tanks.

    For the money it's an incredible little pump. I bought a gig box used for professional lighting equipment to cart it around. I add a bag of ice to the 5 gallon orange Home Depot bucket and that keeps it nice and cool.
     

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